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Listing

Title
Vintage purse lot Italy, france & more
Source
Poshmark
Seller's brand
Unbranded
Category
Bags
Current bid
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Buy-now price
$100.00
Shipping
—
Location
—
Ends
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Discovered
2026-09-16 19:17
Last seen
2026-09-20 02:21

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Seller's description

Must take all. May have flaws. AS IS

AI analysis

Model / prompt
ensemble:openai:gpt-5.6-luna+meta:muse-spark-1.3-contributor (prompt v2)
Analyzed at
2026-09-17 00:42
Is handbag
97%
Coach probability
2% (possible, not confirmed)
Vintage probability
76%
Authenticity confidence
2%
Image quality
70%
Seller misidentification
4%
Coach score
0.16
Opportunity score
0.08
Deal score
0.05
Estimated era
modern (2000s+), non-Coach
Possible models
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Evidence

POSITIVE
  • photo 1: Multiple handbags and clutch-style purses are clearly visible.
  • photo 1: One interior label reads MADE IN ITALY.
  • photo 3: Another label reads Made in Western-Germany, cotton, relief fabric.
  • photo 6: A fabric label reads MADE IN FRANCE WALDORF.
NEGATIVE
  • photo 1: The visible Italian bag has a fabric country label but no visible Coach creed, wordmark, or serial.
  • photo 2: The bag uses a metal kiss-lock frame and chain, not a recognizable vintage Coach turnlock construction.
  • photo 3: The visible Western German label and textile construction point to another maker, not Coach.
  • photo 5: The French-labeled clutch has ornate textile fabric, satin lining, and a frame clasp, unlike the typical leather Coach construction.
  • photo 6: The patterned textile exterior and decorative frame hardware are inconsistent with classic Coach glove-tanned leather bags.
  • photo 7: The lot includes additional textile and beaded purses with no visible Coach identifiers.
  • photo 1: black lining with white fabric tag reading MADE IN ITALY - fabric tag, not leather Coach creed
  • photo 2: kisslock evening bag with black satin lining and silver-tone frame - construction inconsistent with vintage Coach glove-tanned unlined classics
  • photo 3: pink satin lining with tag Made in Western-German - country never used by Coach
  • photo 4: white beaded evening bag with MADE IN JAPAN tag - material and origin inconsistent with Coach
  • photo 5: tapestry bag interior with MADE IN FRANCE VALBORG tag - branded non-Coach maker
  • photo 6: tapestry fabric body with gold-tone kisslock frame and black cabochon clasps - no Coach turnlock geometry, no solid brass Coach hardware, no glove-tanned leather in any photo
MISSING INFORMATION
  • Individual exterior, interior, bottom, and closure photos for every bag in the lot.
  • Straight-on close-ups of any leather labels, logos, or maker marks not shown.
  • Seller-stated dimensions and condition details for each purse.
  • Photos of the remaining bags outside their tissue wrapping.
  • photo 1-5: no full exterior front/back/bottom views of any bag in lot to assess silhouettes
  • photo 1-5: no creed patch or Coach identifier shown - request straight-on interior wall photos
  • photo 6: tapestry exterior shown but no interior/lining/brand tag for that bag
  • seller-stated lot size, count, dimensions and condition details for each bag
AUTHENTICITY CONCERNS
  • ⚠ photo 1: The visible construction and labels indicate non-Coach European textile and frame handbags rather than Coach products.
  • ⚠ photo 3: The Western Germany maker/material label is inconsistent with a Coach identification.
  • ⚠ photo 5: The French Waldorf label and ornate textile frame construction are inconsistent with Coach classic handbag construction.

Observed features

creed present no
serial or style number present no
coach wordmark present no
turnlock present no
hangtag present no
creed text not_visible
serial or style number not_visible
hardware description photo 2: Metal kiss-lock frame closures, chain handles, decorative gold-tone frames, and black spherical clasp knobs are visible; no Coach engraving is visible.
leather description photo 1: No clearly visible leather Coach-style exterior; the shown bags appear primarily textile, satin, beaded, or synthetic/textile construction.
lining description photo 2: Black fabric lining is visible. photo 3: Beige satin-like lining is visible. photo 4: Light satin lining and tissue packing are visible.
strap construction photo 2: Fine chain strap is visible. photo 5: A short chain is visible inside the framed clutch. No Coach-style detachable leather strap is shown.
stitching description photo 3: Loose/frayed threads are visible around the interior label and lining edge; detailed exterior stitching is not sufficiently shown.
Raw AI response (debug)
{
    "is_handbag_probability": 0.965,
    "coach_probability": 0.02,
    "vintage_probability": 0.76,
    "authenticity_confidence": 0.02,
    "image_quality_score": 0.695,
    "seller_misidentification_probability": 0.04,
    "confidence": 0.84,
    "recommended_max_bid": 11,
    "estimated_resale_low": 12.5,
    "estimated_resale_high": 40,
    "possible_models": [],
    "positive_evidence": [
        "photo 1: Multiple handbags and clutch-style purses are clearly visible.",
        "photo 1: One interior label reads MADE IN ITALY.",
        "photo 3: Another label reads Made in Western-Germany, cotton, relief fabric.",
        "photo 6: A fabric label reads MADE IN FRANCE WALDORF."
    ],
    "negative_evidence": [
        "photo 1: The visible Italian bag has a fabric country label but no visible Coach creed, wordmark, or serial.",
        "photo 2: The bag uses a metal kiss-lock frame and chain, not a recognizable vintage Coach turnlock construction.",
        "photo 3: The visible Western German label and textile construction point to another maker, not Coach.",
        "photo 5: The French-labeled clutch has ornate textile fabric, satin lining, and a frame clasp, unlike the typical leather Coach construction.",
        "photo 6: The patterned textile exterior and decorative frame hardware are inconsistent with classic Coach glove-tanned leather bags.",
        "photo 7: The lot includes additional textile and beaded purses with no visible Coach identifiers.",
        "photo 1: black lining with white fabric tag reading MADE IN ITALY - fabric tag, not leather Coach creed",
        "photo 2: kisslock evening bag with black satin lining and silver-tone frame - construction inconsistent with vintage Coach glove-tanned unlined classics",
        "photo 3: pink satin lining with tag Made in Western-German - country never used by Coach",
        "photo 4: white beaded evening bag with MADE IN JAPAN tag - material and origin inconsistent with Coach",
        "photo 5: tapestry bag interior with MADE IN FRANCE VALBORG tag - branded non-Coach maker",
        "photo 6: tapestry fabric body with gold-tone kisslock frame and black cabochon clasps - no Coach turnlock geometry, no solid brass Coach hardware, no glove-tanned leather in any photo"
    ],
    "missing_information": [
        "Individual exterior, interior, bottom, and closure photos for every bag in the lot.",
        "Straight-on close-ups of any leather labels, logos, or maker marks not shown.",
        "Seller-stated dimensions and condition details for each purse.",
        "Photos of the remaining bags outside their tissue wrapping.",
        "photo 1-5: no full exterior front\/back\/bottom views of any bag in lot to assess silhouettes",
        "photo 1-5: no creed patch or Coach identifier shown - request straight-on interior wall photos",
        "photo 6: tapestry exterior shown but no interior\/lining\/brand tag for that bag",
        "seller-stated lot size, count, dimensions and condition details for each bag"
    ],
    "authenticity_concerns": [
        "photo 1: The visible construction and labels indicate non-Coach European textile and frame handbags rather than Coach products.",
        "photo 3: The Western Germany maker\/material label is inconsistent with a Coach identification.",
        "photo 5: The French Waldorf label and ornate textile frame construction are inconsistent with Coach classic handbag construction."
    ],
    "possible_model_reasoning": [
        "photo 1: The lot appears to contain vintage European evening or frame purses, including Italian, Western German, French, textile, and beaded examples; no Coach model match is supported.",
        "photo 2: Kiss-lock frame and chain construction is characteristic of a vintage evening clutch, not a Coach classic turnlock model.",
        "photo 3: The label explicitly identifies Western Germany and cotton relief fabric, supporting a non-Coach textile purse.",
        "photo 6: The French Waldorf label and decorative tapestry exterior further support a non-Coach European accessory.",
        "Condition: Good to Fair overall for the visible lot; tissue wrapping, lining wear, loose threads, creasing, and possible age-related flaws are visible, while full exteriors and bottoms are not shown.",
        "Lot is multiple vintage-style evening kisslock purses (tapestry, beaded, satin) with France\/Italy\/Japan\/Western-Germany tags, not any Coach catalog silhouette from \u00a74",
        "No creed patch, no COACH wordmark, no hangtag, no turnlock, no glove-tanned leather or solid brass hardware seen in any photo",
        "Country\/brand tags observed (Western-German, VALBORG France, Japan) are inconsistent with Coach manufacture",
        "Condition: cannot grade lot as whole; seller states AS IS May have flaws; interiors show tissue stuffing, linings appear intact but full exteriors\/corners\/bottoms not shown"
    ],
    "estimated_era": "modern (2000s+), non-Coach",
    "observed_features": {
        "creed_present": false,
        "serial_or_style_number_present": false,
        "coach_wordmark_present": false,
        "turnlock_present": false,
        "hangtag_present": false,
        "creed_text": "not_visible",
        "serial_or_style_number": "not_visible",
        "hardware_description": "photo 2: Metal kiss-lock frame closures, chain handles, decorative gold-tone frames, and black spherical clasp knobs are visible; no Coach engraving is visible.",
        "leather_description": "photo 1: No clearly visible leather Coach-style exterior; the shown bags appear primarily textile, satin, beaded, or synthetic\/textile construction.",
        "lining_description": "photo 2: Black fabric lining is visible. photo 3: Beige satin-like lining is visible. photo 4: Light satin lining and tissue packing are visible.",
        "strap_construction": "photo 2: Fine chain strap is visible. photo 5: A short chain is visible inside the framed clutch. No Coach-style detachable leather strap is shown.",
        "stitching_description": "photo 3: Loose\/frayed threads are visible around the interior label and lining edge; detailed exterior stitching is not sufficiently shown."
    },
    "ensemble_agreement": "HIGH",
    "ensemble_variance": 0.0035,
    "ensemble_members": [
        {
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            "result": {
                "is_handbag_probability": 0.98,
                "coach_probability": 0.02,
                "vintage_probability": 0.72,
                "authenticity_confidence": 0.02,
                "image_quality_score": 0.84,
                "seller_misidentification_probability": 0.06,
                "estimated_era": "modern (2000s+), non-Coach",
                "possible_models": [],
                "positive_evidence": [
                    "photo 1: Multiple handbags and clutch-style purses are clearly visible.",
                    "photo 1: One interior label reads MADE IN ITALY.",
                    "photo 3: Another label reads Made in Western-Germany, cotton, relief fabric.",
                    "photo 6: A fabric label reads MADE IN FRANCE WALDORF."
                ],
                "negative_evidence": [
                    "photo 1: The visible Italian bag has a fabric country label but no visible Coach creed, wordmark, or serial.",
                    "photo 2: The bag uses a metal kiss-lock frame and chain, not a recognizable vintage Coach turnlock construction.",
                    "photo 3: The visible Western German label and textile construction point to another maker, not Coach.",
                    "photo 5: The French-labeled clutch has ornate textile fabric, satin lining, and a frame clasp, unlike the typical leather Coach construction.",
                    "photo 6: The patterned textile exterior and decorative frame hardware are inconsistent with classic Coach glove-tanned leather bags.",
                    "photo 7: The lot includes additional textile and beaded purses with no visible Coach identifiers."
                ],
                "missing_information": [
                    "Individual exterior, interior, bottom, and closure photos for every bag in the lot.",
                    "Straight-on close-ups of any leather labels, logos, or maker marks not shown.",
                    "Seller-stated dimensions and condition details for each purse.",
                    "Photos of the remaining bags outside their tissue wrapping."
                ],
                "authenticity_concerns": [
                    "photo 1: The visible construction and labels indicate non-Coach European textile and frame handbags rather than Coach products.",
                    "photo 3: The Western Germany maker\/material label is inconsistent with a Coach identification.",
                    "photo 5: The French Waldorf label and ornate textile frame construction are inconsistent with Coach classic handbag construction."
                ],
                "observed_features": {
                    "creed_present": false,
                    "creed_text": "not_visible",
                    "serial_or_style_number_present": false,
                    "serial_or_style_number": "not_visible",
                    "coach_wordmark_present": false,
                    "turnlock_present": false,
                    "hangtag_present": false,
                    "hardware_description": "photo 2: Metal kiss-lock frame closures, chain handles, decorative gold-tone frames, and black spherical clasp knobs are visible; no Coach engraving is visible.",
                    "leather_description": "photo 1: No clearly visible leather Coach-style exterior; the shown bags appear primarily textile, satin, beaded, or synthetic\/textile construction.",
                    "lining_description": "photo 2: Black fabric lining is visible. photo 3: Beige satin-like lining is visible. photo 4: Light satin lining and tissue packing are visible.",
                    "strap_construction": "photo 2: Fine chain strap is visible. photo 5: A short chain is visible inside the framed clutch. No Coach-style detachable leather strap is shown.",
                    "stitching_description": "photo 3: Loose\/frayed threads are visible around the interior label and lining edge; detailed exterior stitching is not sufficiently shown."
                },
                "possible_model_reasoning": [
                    "photo 1: The lot appears to contain vintage European evening or frame purses, including Italian, Western German, French, textile, and beaded examples; no Coach model match is supported.",
                    "photo 2: Kiss-lock frame and chain construction is characteristic of a vintage evening clutch, not a Coach classic turnlock model.",
                    "photo 3: The label explicitly identifies Western Germany and cotton relief fabric, supporting a non-Coach textile purse.",
                    "photo 6: The French Waldorf label and decorative tapestry exterior further support a non-Coach European accessory.",
                    "Condition: Good to Fair overall for the visible lot; tissue wrapping, lining wear, loose threads, creasing, and possible age-related flaws are visible, while full exteriors and bottoms are not shown."
                ],
                "confidence": 0.88,
                "recommended_max_bid": 10,
                "estimated_resale_low": 15,
                "estimated_resale_high": 50
            }
        },
        {
            "model_name": "meta:muse-spark-1.3-contributor",
            "result": {
                "authenticity_concerns": [],
                "authenticity_confidence": 0.02,
                "coach_probability": 0.02,
                "confidence": 0.8,
                "estimated_era": "modern (2000s+), non-Coach",
                "estimated_resale_high": 30,
                "estimated_resale_low": 10,
                "image_quality_score": 0.55,
                "is_handbag_probability": 0.95,
                "missing_information": [
                    "photo 1-5: no full exterior front\/back\/bottom views of any bag in lot to assess silhouettes",
                    "photo 1-5: no creed patch or Coach identifier shown - request straight-on interior wall photos",
                    "photo 6: tapestry exterior shown but no interior\/lining\/brand tag for that bag",
                    "seller-stated lot size, count, dimensions and condition details for each bag"
                ],
                "negative_evidence": [
                    "photo 1: black lining with white fabric tag reading MADE IN ITALY - fabric tag, not leather Coach creed",
                    "photo 2: kisslock evening bag with black satin lining and silver-tone frame - construction inconsistent with vintage Coach glove-tanned unlined classics",
                    "photo 3: pink satin lining with tag Made in Western-German - country never used by Coach",
                    "photo 4: white beaded evening bag with MADE IN JAPAN tag - material and origin inconsistent with Coach",
                    "photo 5: tapestry bag interior with MADE IN FRANCE VALBORG tag - branded non-Coach maker",
                    "photo 6: tapestry fabric body with gold-tone kisslock frame and black cabochon clasps - no Coach turnlock geometry, no solid brass Coach hardware, no glove-tanned leather in any photo"
                ],
                "observed_features": {
                    "coach_wordmark_present": false,
                    "creed_present": false,
                    "creed_text": "not_visible",
                    "hangtag_present": false,
                    "hardware_description": "gold-tone and silver-tone kisslock frames with ball\/clasp closures; thin snake chain and link chain straps visible; not Coach solid-brass turnlock geometry",
                    "leather_description": "no glove-tanned leather visible; tapestry woven fabric, beaded exterior, satin fabrics",
                    "lining_description": "photo 1: black synthetic lining; photo 2: black and pale pink satin linings; photo 3: pale pink satin; photo 4: ivory satin; photo 5: peach satin - all shiny synthetic, not unlined suede-back glove-tanned",
                    "serial_or_style_number": "not_visible",
                    "serial_or_style_number_present": false,
                    "stitching_description": "not_visible",
                    "strap_construction": "thin gold-tone snake chain and link chain evening straps; no buckle-adjustable leather crossbody or dogleash clips",
                    "turnlock_present": false
                },
                "positive_evidence": [],
                "possible_model_reasoning": [
                    "Lot is multiple vintage-style evening kisslock purses (tapestry, beaded, satin) with France\/Italy\/Japan\/Western-Germany tags, not any Coach catalog silhouette from \u00a74",
                    "No creed patch, no COACH wordmark, no hangtag, no turnlock, no glove-tanned leather or solid brass hardware seen in any photo",
                    "Country\/brand tags observed (Western-German, VALBORG France, Japan) are inconsistent with Coach manufacture",
                    "Condition: cannot grade lot as whole; seller states AS IS May have flaws; interiors show tissue stuffing, linings appear intact but full exteriors\/corners\/bottoms not shown"
                ],
                "possible_models": [],
                "recommended_max_bid": 12,
                "seller_misidentification_probability": 0.02,
                "vintage_probability": 0.8
            }
        }
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Valuation AI ESTIMATE

This is a model-generated estimate, not an observed market/sold price. Treat it as a rough guide only.

Estimated resale range
$12.50–$40.00
Suggested max bid
$11.00

Reference-image matches

Nearest-perceptual-hash comparison against a small curated library of known vintage Coach models (data/coach-reference/) -- a coarse mechanical signal, not authentication.

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