Vintage Red Leather Shoulder Bag Color: Red 100% Leather Style Tags: Vintage, Bold, Leather, Eclectic Condition: Pre-owned, good used condition **Measurements: Width- 10 1/2" Depth- 7" Length- 25 1/2"
| creed present | no |
| serial or style number present | no |
| coach wordmark present | no |
| turnlock present | no |
| hangtag present | no |
| creed text | not_visible |
| serial or style number | not_visible |
| hardware description | photo 2: red-toned zipper hardware and zipper teeth are visible; no brand stamp is legible. |
| leather description | photo 3: red leather or leather-like exterior with soft, visibly creased panels; exact leather type cannot be confirmed from photos. |
| lining description | photo 1: red fabric lining is visible, including an interior zip pocket; no label or creed is legible. |
| strap construction | photo 3 and photo 4: long narrow shoulder strap attached at the upper sides; attachment details are not shown clearly enough for further assessment. |
| stitching description | photo 2 and photo 3: visible seams appear machine-stitched and generally even, with some wrinkling and wear; close stress-point inspection is unavailable. |
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"is_handbag_probability": 0.98,
"coach_probability": 0.065,
"vintage_probability": 0.275,
"authenticity_confidence": 0.05,
"image_quality_score": 0.665,
"seller_misidentification_probability": 0.065,
"confidence": 0.66,
"recommended_max_bid": 11,
"estimated_resale_low": 10,
"estimated_resale_high": 30,
"possible_models": [],
"positive_evidence": [
"photo 3: red leather shoulder-bag silhouette and leather construction are visible.",
"photo 2: the bag has a functional zipper and layered leather trim.",
"photo 3-4: red leather shoulder hobo handbag, 10.5 inch width per seller, consistent with handbag scale",
"photo 3: soft slouchy leather with natural folds"
],
"negative_evidence": [
"photo 1: the visible interior has a fabric lining and no readable Coach creed or wordmark.",
"photo 2: visible zipper hardware does not show a Coach stamp.",
"photo 3: the exterior lacks a visible Coach hangtag, horse-and-carriage mark, or recognizable Coach turnlock.",
"photo 3: the rounded, soft, multi-seamed shape does not strongly match a documented classic Coach model.",
"photo 4: no identifying brand details are visible from the full-bag view.",
"photo 1: interior is red fabric lining, not unlined suede-back glove-tanned leather expected for vintage Coach classics",
"photo 2: zip-top closure with red-coated zipper and leather knotted pull, no solid brass hardware visible",
"photo 3: crescent hobo silhouette with exterior slip pocket and center seam, no turnlock, no brass dogleash clips, no bead-chain hangtag",
"photo 1-4: no creed patch, no COACH wordmark, no horse-and-carriage visible in any view",
"photo 3-4: thin fixed shoulder strap with no buckle adjustment or brass clips, unlike classic Coach straps"
],
"missing_information": [
"A straight-on photo of every interior wall and pocket, especially any leather creed patch.",
"Close-up photos of all hardware, zipper pulls, strap attachments, and any interior labels or fabric tags.",
"Bottom, side, and back views to assess construction and condition more fully.",
"Clear close-up photos of the leather surface, corners, and strap attachment points.",
"photo 1: interior shows no creed patch but view is blurry and partial - need straight-on raking-light photo of interior back wall and slip pocket",
"photo 2: zipper pull brand stamp not legible - need close-up of pull and zipper teeth brand",
"no exterior back, bottom, side close-ups to check for creed, labels, or construction",
"no hangtag or wordmark close-up - confirm absence",
"seller-stated dimensions only; no scale or hardware tone confirmation"
],
"authenticity_concerns": [
"No Coach identifier is visible in the provided photos; this currently reads as a generic leather shoulder bag rather than a Coach bag.",
"The fabric-lined construction and absence of a visible creed, hangtag, or Coach wordmark provide little support for vintage Coach attribution."
],
"possible_model_reasoning": [
"No Coach model is proposed because the coach probability is below 0.10 and no Coach identifier is visible.",
"The soft red shoulder-bag silhouette is compatible with many generic leather bags and is not distinctive enough for a Coach model match.",
"Condition: Good used condition based on visible creasing and surface wear in photo 3; bottom, corners, strap wear, odor, and mold cannot be assessed fully because coverage is incomplete.",
"No Coach identifier visible in any photo, so no catalog match is supportable. Silhouette is a generic zip-top crescent\/sidepack hobo, not a documented vintage Coach turnlock classic (City, Willis, Court, Station, Dinky). Fabric lining and non-brass zipper are inconsistent with 1970s-early 1990s unlined glove-tanned brass-hardware Coach. Condition: Good to Very Good; leather shows light creasing and softening (photo 3) but no major corner wear shown, interior looks clean but blurry (photo 1), bottom and strap fold not shown so capped."
],
"estimated_era": "modern (2000s+), non-Coach",
"observed_features": {
"creed_present": false,
"serial_or_style_number_present": false,
"coach_wordmark_present": false,
"turnlock_present": false,
"hangtag_present": false,
"creed_text": "not_visible",
"serial_or_style_number": "not_visible",
"hardware_description": "photo 2: red-toned zipper hardware and zipper teeth are visible; no brand stamp is legible.",
"leather_description": "photo 3: red leather or leather-like exterior with soft, visibly creased panels; exact leather type cannot be confirmed from photos.",
"lining_description": "photo 1: red fabric lining is visible, including an interior zip pocket; no label or creed is legible.",
"strap_construction": "photo 3 and photo 4: long narrow shoulder strap attached at the upper sides; attachment details are not shown clearly enough for further assessment.",
"stitching_description": "photo 2 and photo 3: visible seams appear machine-stitched and generally even, with some wrinkling and wear; close stress-point inspection is unavailable."
},
"ensemble_agreement": "HIGH",
"ensemble_variance": 0.0033,
"ensemble_members": [
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"result": {
"is_handbag_probability": 0.99,
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"vintage_probability": 0.2,
"authenticity_confidence": 0.05,
"image_quality_score": 0.78,
"seller_misidentification_probability": 0.08,
"estimated_era": "modern (2000s+), non-Coach",
"possible_models": [],
"positive_evidence": [
"photo 3: red leather shoulder-bag silhouette and leather construction are visible.",
"photo 2: the bag has a functional zipper and layered leather trim."
],
"negative_evidence": [
"photo 1: the visible interior has a fabric lining and no readable Coach creed or wordmark.",
"photo 2: visible zipper hardware does not show a Coach stamp.",
"photo 3: the exterior lacks a visible Coach hangtag, horse-and-carriage mark, or recognizable Coach turnlock.",
"photo 3: the rounded, soft, multi-seamed shape does not strongly match a documented classic Coach model.",
"photo 4: no identifying brand details are visible from the full-bag view."
],
"missing_information": [
"A straight-on photo of every interior wall and pocket, especially any leather creed patch.",
"Close-up photos of all hardware, zipper pulls, strap attachments, and any interior labels or fabric tags.",
"Bottom, side, and back views to assess construction and condition more fully.",
"Clear close-up photos of the leather surface, corners, and strap attachment points."
],
"authenticity_concerns": [
"No Coach identifier is visible in the provided photos; this currently reads as a generic leather shoulder bag rather than a Coach bag.",
"The fabric-lined construction and absence of a visible creed, hangtag, or Coach wordmark provide little support for vintage Coach attribution."
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"observed_features": {
"creed_present": false,
"creed_text": "not_visible",
"serial_or_style_number_present": false,
"serial_or_style_number": "not_visible",
"coach_wordmark_present": false,
"turnlock_present": false,
"hangtag_present": false,
"hardware_description": "photo 2: red-toned zipper hardware and zipper teeth are visible; no brand stamp is legible.",
"leather_description": "photo 3: red leather or leather-like exterior with soft, visibly creased panels; exact leather type cannot be confirmed from photos.",
"lining_description": "photo 1: red fabric lining is visible, including an interior zip pocket; no label or creed is legible.",
"strap_construction": "photo 3 and photo 4: long narrow shoulder strap attached at the upper sides; attachment details are not shown clearly enough for further assessment.",
"stitching_description": "photo 2 and photo 3: visible seams appear machine-stitched and generally even, with some wrinkling and wear; close stress-point inspection is unavailable."
},
"possible_model_reasoning": [
"No Coach model is proposed because the coach probability is below 0.10 and no Coach identifier is visible.",
"The soft red shoulder-bag silhouette is compatible with many generic leather bags and is not distinctive enough for a Coach model match.",
"Condition: Good used condition based on visible creasing and surface wear in photo 3; bottom, corners, strap wear, odor, and mold cannot be assessed fully because coverage is incomplete."
],
"confidence": 0.72,
"recommended_max_bid": 10,
"estimated_resale_low": 10,
"estimated_resale_high": 35
}
},
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"model_name": "meta:muse-spark-1.3-contributor",
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"authenticity_concerns": [],
"authenticity_confidence": 0.05,
"coach_probability": 0.05,
"confidence": 0.6,
"estimated_era": "modern (2000s+), non-Coach",
"estimated_resale_high": 25,
"estimated_resale_low": 10,
"image_quality_score": 0.55,
"is_handbag_probability": 0.97,
"missing_information": [
"photo 1: interior shows no creed patch but view is blurry and partial - need straight-on raking-light photo of interior back wall and slip pocket",
"photo 2: zipper pull brand stamp not legible - need close-up of pull and zipper teeth brand",
"no exterior back, bottom, side close-ups to check for creed, labels, or construction",
"no hangtag or wordmark close-up - confirm absence",
"seller-stated dimensions only; no scale or hardware tone confirmation"
],
"negative_evidence": [
"photo 1: interior is red fabric lining, not unlined suede-back glove-tanned leather expected for vintage Coach classics",
"photo 2: zip-top closure with red-coated zipper and leather knotted pull, no solid brass hardware visible",
"photo 3: crescent hobo silhouette with exterior slip pocket and center seam, no turnlock, no brass dogleash clips, no bead-chain hangtag",
"photo 1-4: no creed patch, no COACH wordmark, no horse-and-carriage visible in any view",
"photo 3-4: thin fixed shoulder strap with no buckle adjustment or brass clips, unlike classic Coach straps"
],
"observed_features": {
"coach_wordmark_present": false,
"creed_present": false,
"creed_text": "not_visible",
"hangtag_present": false,
"hardware_description": "red zip-top zipper with red plastic-coated pull and small leather knot; no brass turnlock, buckles, or dogleash clips visible; hardware tone not brass",
"leather_description": "smooth red leather with soft sheen and slouch, visible grain and folds in photo 3; not clearly glove-tanned full-grain patina",
"lining_description": "photo 1: red fabric lining, appears nylon\/polyester, with interior slip pocket; not unlined suede",
"serial_or_style_number": "not_visible",
"serial_or_style_number_present": false,
"stitching_description": "photo 3: straight center vertical seam and horizontal seam above front pocket, thread matched to leather; no close-up to assess tightness",
"strap_construction": "photo 3-4: thin narrow red leather fixed shoulder strap, sewn directly to body, no buckle, no detachable clips visible",
"turnlock_present": false
},
"positive_evidence": [
"photo 3-4: red leather shoulder hobo handbag, 10.5 inch width per seller, consistent with handbag scale",
"photo 3: soft slouchy leather with natural folds"
],
"possible_model_reasoning": [
"No Coach identifier visible in any photo, so no catalog match is supportable. Silhouette is a generic zip-top crescent\/sidepack hobo, not a documented vintage Coach turnlock classic (City, Willis, Court, Station, Dinky). Fabric lining and non-brass zipper are inconsistent with 1970s-early 1990s unlined glove-tanned brass-hardware Coach. Condition: Good to Very Good; leather shows light creasing and softening (photo 3) but no major corner wear shown, interior looks clean but blurry (photo 1), bottom and strap fold not shown so capped."
],
"possible_models": [],
"recommended_max_bid": 12,
"seller_misidentification_probability": 0.05,
"vintage_probability": 0.35
}
}
],
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This is a model-generated estimate, not an observed market/sold price. Treat it as a rough guide only.
Nearest-perceptual-hash comparison against a small curated library of known vintage Coach models (data/coach-reference/) -- a coarse mechanical signal, not authentication.
No reference matches yet.