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Listing

Title
Vintage Black Leather Frame Bag Kiss Lock Snap Flap Mid Century Mod
Source
eBay
Seller's brand
Unbranded
Category
Women's Bags & Handbags
Current bid
—
Buy-now price
$50.00
Shipping
—
Location
US
Ends
— (—)
Discovered
2026-09-18 00:46
Last seen
2026-09-20 02:19

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AI analysis

Model / prompt
ensemble:openai:gpt-5.6-luna+meta:muse-spark-1.3-contributor (prompt v2)
Analyzed at
2026-09-18 01:37
Is handbag
99%
Coach probability
15% (possible, not confirmed)
Vintage probability
53%
Authenticity confidence
14%
Image quality
76%
Seller misidentification
15%
Coach score
0.22
Opportunity score
0.13
Deal score
0.09
Estimated era
modern (2000s+), non-Coach
Possible models
—

Evidence

POSITIVE
  • photo 1: leather handbag with a structured frame, top handle, and kiss-lock-style closure.
  • photo 1: black leather and a mid-century-inspired silhouette could superficially overlap with some early Coach frame bags.
  • photo 1-6: genuine-appearing black leather handbag with aged patina and solid-type brass-tone frame hardware consistent with mid-century vintage construction
  • photo 1,3: kiss-lock / scissor-frame construction evokes Bonnie Cashin era (1962-1974) frame bags such as Swinger/Chubby Clutch/Double Header types, so Coach cannot be ruled out from silhouette alone
  • photo 1-6: leather texture and simple unbranded construction is the population where misidentified pre-creed/cartouche Coach hides; seller listing as Unbranded does not lower probability
NEGATIVE
  • photo 1: the closure is a large rounded kiss-lock/frame clasp, not a recognizable Coach turnlock.
  • photo 1: the visible hardware appears mixed gold-tone and silver-tone, inconsistent with typical vintage Coach hardware uniformity.
  • photo 1: no Coach wordmark, horse-and-carriage mark, hangtag, or other visible Coach identifier.
  • photo 1: the leather is heavily pebbled and glossy rather than clearly identifiable as classic glove-tanned Coach leather.
  • photo 2: the plain back and visible construction do not show a Coach creed or style identifier.
  • photo 3: the front detail has no visible Coach branding.
  • photo 6: the side construction and hardware do not provide a recognizable Coach model cue.
  • photo 1-6: no COACH wordmark, horse-and-carriage, creed patch, or leather hangtag visible
  • photo 1,3,4: no turnlock present; closure is kiss-lock frame plus front snap-flap with ball stud, not classic Coach turnlock geometry
  • photo 1-6: interior, lining, creed wall/pocket, and bottom never shown so no hard identifier can be verified
  • photo 2,5,6: silhouette is kiss-lock frame handbag with exterior snap pocket, not matching common catalog classics like Willis/Court/Station/Dinky
MISSING INFORMATION
  • Interior emptied and photographed, especially the back wall and any sewn-in leather creed patch.
  • Straight-on close-up of any interior labels, stamps, or fabric tags.
  • Close-ups of the clasp, strap attachments, and all hardware for maker marks.
  • Bottom, corners, and full strap-condition photos.
  • Seller-stated dimensions and country-of-origin markings, if present.
  • interior views emptied showing lining and any creed patch or labels - not shown in any photo
  • creed close-up in raking light to read wording and No. number
  • bottom view showing corners and feet/wear
  • close-up of hardware stamps, zipper brand, and hangtag both faces if present
  • strap attachments, full length, and scale/dimensions
  • odor, mold, and function of kiss-lock clasp
AUTHENTICITY CONCERNS
  • ⚠ The visible design lacks the identifiers and characteristic hardware associated with vintage Coach, so it presently reads as an unbranded lookalike rather than a Coach product.
  • ⚠ Mixed-tone hardware visible in photos 1 and 5 is a concern for a purported vintage Coach bag.
  • ⚠ No creed or other Coach identifier is visible; this is not conclusive because the interior is not shown.

Observed features

creed present no
serial or style number present no
coach wordmark present no
turnlock present no
hangtag present no
creed text not_visible
serial or style number not_visible
hardware description photo 1: top frame with a rounded kiss-lock closure, silver-tone strap clips, and a gold-tone central frame component; no branding visible.
leather description photos 1-7: black leather with pronounced pebbled grain and a somewhat glossy finish; surface appears generally intact, with light creasing and edge wear visible.
lining description not_visible
strap construction photos 1 and 4: single top handle/shoulder strap with wrapped or stitched leather construction and small strap clips; condition appears worn but intact.
stitching description photos 1, 3, and 6: visible perimeter and panel stitching appears generally even; detailed stress-point stitching is not fully assessable.
Raw AI response (debug)
{
    "is_handbag_probability": 0.99,
    "coach_probability": 0.15,
    "vintage_probability": 0.525,
    "authenticity_confidence": 0.135,
    "image_quality_score": 0.755,
    "seller_misidentification_probability": 0.15,
    "confidence": 0.665,
    "recommended_max_bid": 15,
    "estimated_resale_low": 20,
    "estimated_resale_high": 57.5,
    "possible_models": [],
    "positive_evidence": [
        "photo 1: leather handbag with a structured frame, top handle, and kiss-lock-style closure.",
        "photo 1: black leather and a mid-century-inspired silhouette could superficially overlap with some early Coach frame bags.",
        "photo 1-6: genuine-appearing black leather handbag with aged patina and solid-type brass-tone frame hardware consistent with mid-century vintage construction",
        "photo 1,3: kiss-lock \/ scissor-frame construction evokes Bonnie Cashin era (1962-1974) frame bags such as Swinger\/Chubby Clutch\/Double Header types, so Coach cannot be ruled out from silhouette alone",
        "photo 1-6: leather texture and simple unbranded construction is the population where misidentified pre-creed\/cartouche Coach hides; seller listing as Unbranded does not lower probability"
    ],
    "negative_evidence": [
        "photo 1: the closure is a large rounded kiss-lock\/frame clasp, not a recognizable Coach turnlock.",
        "photo 1: the visible hardware appears mixed gold-tone and silver-tone, inconsistent with typical vintage Coach hardware uniformity.",
        "photo 1: no Coach wordmark, horse-and-carriage mark, hangtag, or other visible Coach identifier.",
        "photo 1: the leather is heavily pebbled and glossy rather than clearly identifiable as classic glove-tanned Coach leather.",
        "photo 2: the plain back and visible construction do not show a Coach creed or style identifier.",
        "photo 3: the front detail has no visible Coach branding.",
        "photo 6: the side construction and hardware do not provide a recognizable Coach model cue.",
        "photo 1-6: no COACH wordmark, horse-and-carriage, creed patch, or leather hangtag visible",
        "photo 1,3,4: no turnlock present; closure is kiss-lock frame plus front snap-flap with ball stud, not classic Coach turnlock geometry",
        "photo 1-6: interior, lining, creed wall\/pocket, and bottom never shown so no hard identifier can be verified",
        "photo 2,5,6: silhouette is kiss-lock frame handbag with exterior snap pocket, not matching common catalog classics like Willis\/Court\/Station\/Dinky"
    ],
    "missing_information": [
        "Interior emptied and photographed, especially the back wall and any sewn-in leather creed patch.",
        "Straight-on close-up of any interior labels, stamps, or fabric tags.",
        "Close-ups of the clasp, strap attachments, and all hardware for maker marks.",
        "Bottom, corners, and full strap-condition photos.",
        "Seller-stated dimensions and country-of-origin markings, if present.",
        "interior views emptied showing lining and any creed patch or labels - not shown in any photo",
        "creed close-up in raking light to read wording and No. number",
        "bottom view showing corners and feet\/wear",
        "close-up of hardware stamps, zipper brand, and hangtag both faces if present",
        "strap attachments, full length, and scale\/dimensions",
        "odor, mold, and function of kiss-lock clasp"
    ],
    "authenticity_concerns": [
        "The visible design lacks the identifiers and characteristic hardware associated with vintage Coach, so it presently reads as an unbranded lookalike rather than a Coach product.",
        "Mixed-tone hardware visible in photos 1 and 5 is a concern for a purported vintage Coach bag.",
        "No creed or other Coach identifier is visible; this is not conclusive because the interior is not shown."
    ],
    "possible_model_reasoning": [
        "The frame-and-kiss-lock silhouette is not a close match for the listed classic Coach turnlock models and no Coach model-specific feature is visible.",
        "Coach did produce some early frame and kisslock bags, but the available photos show no Cashin-era label, Coach metal tag, striped lining, or other supporting identifier.",
        "Era is estimated from the visible construction only; the absence of interior and label photos prevents reliable dating.",
        "Condition: approximately Good to Very Good from visible exterior photos; light creasing and edge wear are visible, but the interior, bottom, odor, and hidden corners are unknown.",
        "No Coach model can be ranked without interior identifier; frame kiss-lock shape is broadly Cashin-era-like but front snap-flap with ball stud and pebbled overlay does not match a documented catalog style in photos provided",
        "No serial decode possible; creed not visible",
        "Condition: Very Good to Excellent exterior; leather supple with light sheen, no corner blowouts seen in side views (photo 5,6), hardware tarnished but intact; capped because interior, bottom, odor and clasp function unknown"
    ],
    "estimated_era": "modern (2000s+), non-Coach",
    "observed_features": {
        "creed_present": false,
        "serial_or_style_number_present": false,
        "coach_wordmark_present": false,
        "turnlock_present": false,
        "hangtag_present": false,
        "creed_text": "not_visible",
        "serial_or_style_number": "not_visible",
        "hardware_description": "photo 1: top frame with a rounded kiss-lock closure, silver-tone strap clips, and a gold-tone central frame component; no branding visible.",
        "leather_description": "photos 1-7: black leather with pronounced pebbled grain and a somewhat glossy finish; surface appears generally intact, with light creasing and edge wear visible.",
        "lining_description": "not_visible",
        "strap_construction": "photos 1 and 4: single top handle\/shoulder strap with wrapped or stitched leather construction and small strap clips; condition appears worn but intact.",
        "stitching_description": "photos 1, 3, and 6: visible perimeter and panel stitching appears generally even; detailed stress-point stitching is not fully assessable."
    },
    "ensemble_agreement": "HIGH",
    "ensemble_variance": 0.0098,
    "ensemble_members": [
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                "is_handbag_probability": 0.99,
                "coach_probability": 0.08,
                "vintage_probability": 0.35,
                "authenticity_confidence": 0.07,
                "image_quality_score": 0.86,
                "seller_misidentification_probability": 0.08,
                "estimated_era": "modern (2000s+), non-Coach",
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                "positive_evidence": [
                    "photo 1: leather handbag with a structured frame, top handle, and kiss-lock-style closure.",
                    "photo 1: black leather and a mid-century-inspired silhouette could superficially overlap with some early Coach frame bags."
                ],
                "negative_evidence": [
                    "photo 1: the closure is a large rounded kiss-lock\/frame clasp, not a recognizable Coach turnlock.",
                    "photo 1: the visible hardware appears mixed gold-tone and silver-tone, inconsistent with typical vintage Coach hardware uniformity.",
                    "photo 1: no Coach wordmark, horse-and-carriage mark, hangtag, or other visible Coach identifier.",
                    "photo 1: the leather is heavily pebbled and glossy rather than clearly identifiable as classic glove-tanned Coach leather.",
                    "photo 2: the plain back and visible construction do not show a Coach creed or style identifier.",
                    "photo 3: the front detail has no visible Coach branding.",
                    "photo 6: the side construction and hardware do not provide a recognizable Coach model cue."
                ],
                "missing_information": [
                    "Interior emptied and photographed, especially the back wall and any sewn-in leather creed patch.",
                    "Straight-on close-up of any interior labels, stamps, or fabric tags.",
                    "Close-ups of the clasp, strap attachments, and all hardware for maker marks.",
                    "Bottom, corners, and full strap-condition photos.",
                    "Seller-stated dimensions and country-of-origin markings, if present."
                ],
                "authenticity_concerns": [
                    "The visible design lacks the identifiers and characteristic hardware associated with vintage Coach, so it presently reads as an unbranded lookalike rather than a Coach product.",
                    "Mixed-tone hardware visible in photos 1 and 5 is a concern for a purported vintage Coach bag.",
                    "No creed or other Coach identifier is visible; this is not conclusive because the interior is not shown."
                ],
                "observed_features": {
                    "creed_present": false,
                    "creed_text": "not_visible",
                    "serial_or_style_number_present": false,
                    "serial_or_style_number": "not_visible",
                    "coach_wordmark_present": false,
                    "turnlock_present": false,
                    "hangtag_present": false,
                    "hardware_description": "photo 1: top frame with a rounded kiss-lock closure, silver-tone strap clips, and a gold-tone central frame component; no branding visible.",
                    "leather_description": "photos 1-7: black leather with pronounced pebbled grain and a somewhat glossy finish; surface appears generally intact, with light creasing and edge wear visible.",
                    "lining_description": "not_visible",
                    "strap_construction": "photos 1 and 4: single top handle\/shoulder strap with wrapped or stitched leather construction and small strap clips; condition appears worn but intact.",
                    "stitching_description": "photos 1, 3, and 6: visible perimeter and panel stitching appears generally even; detailed stress-point stitching is not fully assessable."
                },
                "possible_model_reasoning": [
                    "The frame-and-kiss-lock silhouette is not a close match for the listed classic Coach turnlock models and no Coach model-specific feature is visible.",
                    "Coach did produce some early frame and kisslock bags, but the available photos show no Cashin-era label, Coach metal tag, striped lining, or other supporting identifier.",
                    "Era is estimated from the visible construction only; the absence of interior and label photos prevents reliable dating.",
                    "Condition: approximately Good to Very Good from visible exterior photos; light creasing and edge wear are visible, but the interior, bottom, odor, and hidden corners are unknown."
                ],
                "confidence": 0.78,
                "recommended_max_bid": 15,
                "estimated_resale_low": 20,
                "estimated_resale_high": 60
            }
        },
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            "model_name": "meta:muse-spark-1.3-contributor",
            "result": {
                "authenticity_concerns": [],
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                "coach_probability": 0.22,
                "confidence": 0.55,
                "estimated_era": "unknown",
                "estimated_resale_high": 55,
                "estimated_resale_low": 20,
                "image_quality_score": 0.65,
                "is_handbag_probability": 0.99,
                "missing_information": [
                    "interior views emptied showing lining and any creed patch or labels - not shown in any photo",
                    "creed close-up in raking light to read wording and No. number",
                    "bottom view showing corners and feet\/wear",
                    "close-up of hardware stamps, zipper brand, and hangtag both faces if present",
                    "strap attachments, full length, and scale\/dimensions",
                    "odor, mold, and function of kiss-lock clasp"
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                "negative_evidence": [
                    "photo 1-6: no COACH wordmark, horse-and-carriage, creed patch, or leather hangtag visible",
                    "photo 1,3,4: no turnlock present; closure is kiss-lock frame plus front snap-flap with ball stud, not classic Coach turnlock geometry",
                    "photo 1-6: interior, lining, creed wall\/pocket, and bottom never shown so no hard identifier can be verified",
                    "photo 2,5,6: silhouette is kiss-lock frame handbag with exterior snap pocket, not matching common catalog classics like Willis\/Court\/Station\/Dinky"
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                    "creed_present": false,
                    "creed_text": "not_visible",
                    "hangtag_present": false,
                    "hardware_description": "brass-tone kiss-lock frame clasp at top center (photo 4), small rings linking handles to frame; aged warm tone, no COACH engraving visible",
                    "leather_description": "black pebbled grain leather with soft sheen, looks like genuine leather vintage handbag; front flap overlay with coarser pebble texture (photo 1,3)",
                    "lining_description": "not_visible",
                    "serial_or_style_number": "not_visible",
                    "serial_or_style_number_present": false,
                    "stitching_description": "straight edge stitching visible on front pocket edge (photo 1,3); no mismatched thread seen, detail limited by distance",
                    "strap_construction": "two short rolled top handles in matching black leather with knotted loop through frame rings and leather keeper wraps (photo 1,2,4)",
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                    "No serial decode possible; creed not visible",
                    "Condition: Very Good to Excellent exterior; leather supple with light sheen, no corner blowouts seen in side views (photo 5,6), hardware tarnished but intact; capped because interior, bottom, odor and clasp function unknown"
                ],
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                "recommended_max_bid": 15,
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Valuation AI ESTIMATE

This is a model-generated estimate, not an observed market/sold price. Treat it as a rough guide only.

Estimated resale range
$20.00–$57.50
Suggested max bid
$15.00

Reference-image matches

Nearest-perceptual-hash comparison against a small curated library of known vintage Coach models (data/coach-reference/) -- a coarse mechanical signal, not authentication.

No reference matches yet.

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