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Listing

Title
Vintage Hand Tooled Leather Small Crossbody Purse- Red-Turnlock Closure-READ!
Source
eBay
Seller's brand
Unbranded
Category
Women's Bags & Handbags
Current bid
—
Buy-now price
$9.99
Shipping
$3.00
Location
US
Ends
— (—)
Discovered
2026-09-18 00:46
Last seen
2026-09-18 00:46

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AI analysis

Model / prompt
ensemble:openai:gpt-5.6-luna+meta:muse-spark-1.3-contributor (prompt v2)
Analyzed at
2026-09-18 01:40
Is handbag
99%
Coach probability
3% (possible, not confirmed)
Vintage probability
45%
Authenticity confidence
3%
Image quality
75%
Seller misidentification
7%
Coach score
0.14
Opportunity score
0.21
Deal score
0.30
Estimated era
modern (2000s+), non-Coach
Possible models
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Evidence

POSITIVE
  • photo 1: clearly a leather crossbody handbag with a long adjustable strap and central turning closure
  • photo 1: brass-tone hardware and leather construction are compatible with many vintage handbags, though not specific to Coach
  • photo 1,2: leather handbag with brass-tone turnlock closure - general population where misidentified Coach hides
  • photo 1: solid leather construction, not nylon / PVC / faux
NEGATIVE
  • photo 1: the bag has prominent hand-tooled floral decoration and decorative whip-stitching, unlike the smooth, comparatively understated leather used on typical vintage Coach classics
  • photo 2: the closure is a large oval turnlock with a domed central tab, not the elegant thin Coach classic turnlock geometry
  • photo 3: visible tooling includes the initials "LJ" rather than a Coach wordmark or horse-and-carriage identifier
  • photo 4: side construction uses extensive contrasting whip-stitching, a strong lookalike/handmade construction cue rather than a known Coach classic feature
  • photo 5: the front has decorative tooling and no visible Coach branding, creed patch, or hangtag
  • photo 1: seller title identifies the item as unbranded, which is consistent with the visible lack of Coach identifiers
  • photo 1,5: cut-out top-handle silhouette with added crossbody strap matches no Coach catalog style
  • photo 3,5: hand-tooled floral / butterfly embossing with personalized LJ initials - never used on vintage Coach classics
  • photo 3,4: laced rawhide side and bottom seams instead of Coach stitched seams
  • photos 1-6: no creed patch, no COACH wordmark, no horse-and-carriage, no hangtag visible
  • photo 2: small oval turnlock geometry unlike Coach Cashin turnlock wide thin plate and keeper
MISSING INFORMATION
  • photo 1-7: no interior view showing whether a creed patch, fabric label, or other maker mark is present
  • photo 1-7: no bottom, back, or full interior photographs
  • photo 1-7: no close-up of any zipper, lining, or interior construction
  • photo 1-7: seller-stated dimensions and strap length are not provided
  • interior views including back wall / pocket where creed would sit not shown
  • bottom view and dimensions / scale not shown
  • hangtag faces / wordmark close-up not shown - none visible
  • hardware brand stamps on turnlock back plate and clips not shown
AUTHENTICITY CONCERNS
  • ⚠ photo 2: the oversized rounded turnlock is inconsistent with the usual geometry of vintage Coach hardware
  • ⚠ photo 3: initials "LJ" and extensive hand tooling point to another maker or a handmade/custom bag, not Coach
  • ⚠ photo 4: decorative whip-stitching and visible raw/leather-edge construction do not match the expected construction of the likely Coach models

Observed features

creed present no
serial or style number present no
coach wordmark present no
turnlock present yes
hangtag present no
creed text not_visible
serial or style number not_visible
hardware description photo 2: large oval brass-tone turning closure with a domed central tab; photo 1: brass-tone strap clips and rings are visible
leather description photo 1: reddish-burgundy leather with extensive floral hand-tooling, surface variation, and decorative lacing; appears leather, but exact tanning and finish are not determinable
lining description not_visible
strap construction photo 1: long leather strap attached with brass-tone swivel clips; strap edges appear unfinished or rough in places
stitching description photo 3-4: decorative whip-stitching/lacing passes through punched holes along the lower edge and side seam; ordinary seam stitching is not clearly visible
Raw AI response (debug)
{
    "is_handbag_probability": 0.985,
    "coach_probability": 0.025,
    "vintage_probability": 0.45,
    "authenticity_confidence": 0.025,
    "image_quality_score": 0.745,
    "seller_misidentification_probability": 0.07,
    "confidence": 0.855,
    "recommended_max_bid": 12.5,
    "estimated_resale_low": 12.5,
    "estimated_resale_high": 35,
    "possible_models": [],
    "positive_evidence": [
        "photo 1: clearly a leather crossbody handbag with a long adjustable strap and central turning closure",
        "photo 1: brass-tone hardware and leather construction are compatible with many vintage handbags, though not specific to Coach",
        "photo 1,2: leather handbag with brass-tone turnlock closure - general population where misidentified Coach hides",
        "photo 1: solid leather construction, not nylon \/ PVC \/ faux"
    ],
    "negative_evidence": [
        "photo 1: the bag has prominent hand-tooled floral decoration and decorative whip-stitching, unlike the smooth, comparatively understated leather used on typical vintage Coach classics",
        "photo 2: the closure is a large oval turnlock with a domed central tab, not the elegant thin Coach classic turnlock geometry",
        "photo 3: visible tooling includes the initials \"LJ\" rather than a Coach wordmark or horse-and-carriage identifier",
        "photo 4: side construction uses extensive contrasting whip-stitching, a strong lookalike\/handmade construction cue rather than a known Coach classic feature",
        "photo 5: the front has decorative tooling and no visible Coach branding, creed patch, or hangtag",
        "photo 1: seller title identifies the item as unbranded, which is consistent with the visible lack of Coach identifiers",
        "photo 1,5: cut-out top-handle silhouette with added crossbody strap matches no Coach catalog style",
        "photo 3,5: hand-tooled floral \/ butterfly embossing with personalized LJ initials - never used on vintage Coach classics",
        "photo 3,4: laced rawhide side and bottom seams instead of Coach stitched seams",
        "photos 1-6: no creed patch, no COACH wordmark, no horse-and-carriage, no hangtag visible",
        "photo 2: small oval turnlock geometry unlike Coach Cashin turnlock wide thin plate and keeper"
    ],
    "missing_information": [
        "photo 1-7: no interior view showing whether a creed patch, fabric label, or other maker mark is present",
        "photo 1-7: no bottom, back, or full interior photographs",
        "photo 1-7: no close-up of any zipper, lining, or interior construction",
        "photo 1-7: seller-stated dimensions and strap length are not provided",
        "interior views including back wall \/ pocket where creed would sit not shown",
        "bottom view and dimensions \/ scale not shown",
        "hangtag faces \/ wordmark close-up not shown - none visible",
        "hardware brand stamps on turnlock back plate and clips not shown"
    ],
    "authenticity_concerns": [
        "photo 2: the oversized rounded turnlock is inconsistent with the usual geometry of vintage Coach hardware",
        "photo 3: initials \"LJ\" and extensive hand tooling point to another maker or a handmade\/custom bag, not Coach",
        "photo 4: decorative whip-stitching and visible raw\/leather-edge construction do not match the expected construction of the likely Coach models"
    ],
    "possible_model_reasoning": [
        "photo 1: silhouette is a small handled crossbody\/bucket-style purse, but it does not closely match the listed Coach City Bag, Court, Willis, Dinky, or other classic catalog shapes",
        "photo 3: the visible \"LJ\" initials are not a Coach identifier and support a handmade or other-maker attribution",
        "photo 1-5: no visible creed, serial\/style number, wordmark, carriage, or Coach hangtag; a Coach attribution is therefore unsupported",
        "photo 1-5: condition appears Good; visible surface wear, color variation, edge wear, and rough strap edges are present, while the interior and functional condition remain unknown",
        "No Coach model fits: cut-out handle tote with tooling, lacing, and LJ monogram is artisan \/ handmade craft construction, not any Classic glove-tanned style like Dinky 9375, Station 5130, Court 9870",
        "No serial to decode, no creed era to assign; era assigned non-Coach based on construction",
        "Condition: Good to Very Good for a handmade bag; surface scuffs and tarnish (photo 2,5), strap edges rough (photo 1), interior unknown so grade capped"
    ],
    "estimated_era": "modern (2000s+), non-Coach",
    "observed_features": {
        "creed_present": false,
        "serial_or_style_number_present": false,
        "coach_wordmark_present": false,
        "turnlock_present": true,
        "hangtag_present": false,
        "creed_text": "not_visible",
        "serial_or_style_number": "not_visible",
        "hardware_description": "photo 2: large oval brass-tone turning closure with a domed central tab; photo 1: brass-tone strap clips and rings are visible",
        "leather_description": "photo 1: reddish-burgundy leather with extensive floral hand-tooling, surface variation, and decorative lacing; appears leather, but exact tanning and finish are not determinable",
        "lining_description": "not_visible",
        "strap_construction": "photo 1: long leather strap attached with brass-tone swivel clips; strap edges appear unfinished or rough in places",
        "stitching_description": "photo 3-4: decorative whip-stitching\/lacing passes through punched holes along the lower edge and side seam; ordinary seam stitching is not clearly visible"
    },
    "ensemble_agreement": "HIGH",
    "ensemble_variance": 0.0031,
    "ensemble_members": [
        {
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            "result": {
                "is_handbag_probability": 0.98,
                "coach_probability": 0.03,
                "vintage_probability": 0.55,
                "authenticity_confidence": 0.03,
                "image_quality_score": 0.84,
                "seller_misidentification_probability": 0.12,
                "estimated_era": "modern (2000s+), non-Coach",
                "possible_models": [],
                "positive_evidence": [
                    "photo 1: clearly a leather crossbody handbag with a long adjustable strap and central turning closure",
                    "photo 1: brass-tone hardware and leather construction are compatible with many vintage handbags, though not specific to Coach"
                ],
                "negative_evidence": [
                    "photo 1: the bag has prominent hand-tooled floral decoration and decorative whip-stitching, unlike the smooth, comparatively understated leather used on typical vintage Coach classics",
                    "photo 2: the closure is a large oval turnlock with a domed central tab, not the elegant thin Coach classic turnlock geometry",
                    "photo 3: visible tooling includes the initials \"LJ\" rather than a Coach wordmark or horse-and-carriage identifier",
                    "photo 4: side construction uses extensive contrasting whip-stitching, a strong lookalike\/handmade construction cue rather than a known Coach classic feature",
                    "photo 5: the front has decorative tooling and no visible Coach branding, creed patch, or hangtag",
                    "photo 1: seller title identifies the item as unbranded, which is consistent with the visible lack of Coach identifiers"
                ],
                "missing_information": [
                    "photo 1-7: no interior view showing whether a creed patch, fabric label, or other maker mark is present",
                    "photo 1-7: no bottom, back, or full interior photographs",
                    "photo 1-7: no close-up of any zipper, lining, or interior construction",
                    "photo 1-7: seller-stated dimensions and strap length are not provided"
                ],
                "authenticity_concerns": [
                    "photo 2: the oversized rounded turnlock is inconsistent with the usual geometry of vintage Coach hardware",
                    "photo 3: initials \"LJ\" and extensive hand tooling point to another maker or a handmade\/custom bag, not Coach",
                    "photo 4: decorative whip-stitching and visible raw\/leather-edge construction do not match the expected construction of the likely Coach models"
                ],
                "observed_features": {
                    "creed_present": false,
                    "creed_text": "not_visible",
                    "serial_or_style_number_present": false,
                    "serial_or_style_number": "not_visible",
                    "coach_wordmark_present": false,
                    "turnlock_present": true,
                    "hangtag_present": false,
                    "hardware_description": "photo 2: large oval brass-tone turning closure with a domed central tab; photo 1: brass-tone strap clips and rings are visible",
                    "leather_description": "photo 1: reddish-burgundy leather with extensive floral hand-tooling, surface variation, and decorative lacing; appears leather, but exact tanning and finish are not determinable",
                    "lining_description": "not_visible",
                    "strap_construction": "photo 1: long leather strap attached with brass-tone swivel clips; strap edges appear unfinished or rough in places",
                    "stitching_description": "photo 3-4: decorative whip-stitching\/lacing passes through punched holes along the lower edge and side seam; ordinary seam stitching is not clearly visible"
                },
                "possible_model_reasoning": [
                    "photo 1: silhouette is a small handled crossbody\/bucket-style purse, but it does not closely match the listed Coach City Bag, Court, Willis, Dinky, or other classic catalog shapes",
                    "photo 3: the visible \"LJ\" initials are not a Coach identifier and support a handmade or other-maker attribution",
                    "photo 1-5: no visible creed, serial\/style number, wordmark, carriage, or Coach hangtag; a Coach attribution is therefore unsupported",
                    "photo 1-5: condition appears Good; visible surface wear, color variation, edge wear, and rough strap edges are present, while the interior and functional condition remain unknown"
                ],
                "confidence": 0.86,
                "recommended_max_bid": 15,
                "estimated_resale_low": 15,
                "estimated_resale_high": 45
            }
        },
        {
            "model_name": "meta:muse-spark-1.3-contributor",
            "result": {
                "authenticity_concerns": [],
                "authenticity_confidence": 0.02,
                "coach_probability": 0.02,
                "confidence": 0.85,
                "estimated_era": "modern (2000s+), non-Coach",
                "estimated_resale_high": 25,
                "estimated_resale_low": 10,
                "image_quality_score": 0.65,
                "is_handbag_probability": 0.99,
                "missing_information": [
                    "interior views including back wall \/ pocket where creed would sit not shown",
                    "bottom view and dimensions \/ scale not shown",
                    "hangtag faces \/ wordmark close-up not shown - none visible",
                    "hardware brand stamps on turnlock back plate and clips not shown"
                ],
                "negative_evidence": [
                    "photo 1,5: cut-out top-handle silhouette with added crossbody strap matches no Coach catalog style",
                    "photo 3,5: hand-tooled floral \/ butterfly embossing with personalized LJ initials - never used on vintage Coach classics",
                    "photo 3,4: laced rawhide side and bottom seams instead of Coach stitched seams",
                    "photos 1-6: no creed patch, no COACH wordmark, no horse-and-carriage, no hangtag visible",
                    "photo 2: small oval turnlock geometry unlike Coach Cashin turnlock wide thin plate and keeper"
                ],
                "observed_features": {
                    "coach_wordmark_present": false,
                    "creed_present": false,
                    "creed_text": "not_visible",
                    "hangtag_present": false,
                    "hardware_description": "photo 2: small oval brass-tone turnlock with tarnish; photo 5-6: brass-tone rivets and small dogleash-type swivel clips for crossbody strap",
                    "leather_description": "photo 1,3,5: reddish-brown smooth leather with hand-tooled floral \/ butterfly pattern and LJ initials, surface scuffing and patina",
                    "lining_description": "not_visible",
                    "serial_or_style_number": "not_visible",
                    "serial_or_style_number_present": false,
                    "stitching_description": "no conventional stitching visible; photo 3,4: tan lacing through punched holes at sides and bottom",
                    "strap_construction": "photo 1,5: thin flat unadjusted leather crossbody strap with raw edges attached via swivel hooks to side loops",
                    "turnlock_present": true
                },
                "positive_evidence": [
                    "photo 1,2: leather handbag with brass-tone turnlock closure - general population where misidentified Coach hides",
                    "photo 1: solid leather construction, not nylon \/ PVC \/ faux"
                ],
                "possible_model_reasoning": [
                    "No Coach model fits: cut-out handle tote with tooling, lacing, and LJ monogram is artisan \/ handmade craft construction, not any Classic glove-tanned style like Dinky 9375, Station 5130, Court 9870",
                    "No serial to decode, no creed era to assign; era assigned non-Coach based on construction",
                    "Condition: Good to Very Good for a handmade bag; surface scuffs and tarnish (photo 2,5), strap edges rough (photo 1), interior unknown so grade capped"
                ],
                "possible_models": [],
                "recommended_max_bid": 10,
                "seller_misidentification_probability": 0.02,
                "vintage_probability": 0.35
            }
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Valuation AI ESTIMATE

This is a model-generated estimate, not an observed market/sold price. Treat it as a rough guide only.

Estimated resale range
$12.50–$35.00
Suggested max bid
$12.50

Reference-image matches

Nearest-perceptual-hash comparison against a small curated library of known vintage Coach models (data/coach-reference/) -- a coarse mechanical signal, not authentication.

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