Vtg navy blue leather handbag with gold tone hardware and top kiss lock closure. Stunning versatile bag that can be worn as a crossbody bag or thin arm strap can be put inside to hold as a clutch. Good condition - one side of hardware discolored due to age. Brand: Shirl Miller Ltd Material: no tag - leather Measurements lying flat: L: 8.5" x W: 1" + H: 7.25 x D: 22.75" Glam | Chic | Evening
| creed present | no |
| serial or style number present | no |
| coach wordmark present | no |
| turnlock present | no |
| hangtag present | no |
| creed text | not_visible |
| serial or style number | not_visible |
| hardware description | Photos 1-4: Gold-tone metal kiss-lock frame with twin spherical clasp knobs; visible discoloration and finish wear on the frame. No Coach engraving is visible. |
| leather description | Photos 1-4: Soft dark leather, appearing black or very dark navy, with substantial wrinkling, creasing, and surface wear. |
| lining description | not_visible |
| strap construction | Photo 2: Thin dark strap attached at the upper sides; seller states it can be placed inside for clutch use. Attachment details are not shown closely. |
| stitching description | Photos 1-4: Vertical gathered sections and perimeter construction are visible, but stitching is not sufficiently clear for a detailed assessment. |
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"coach_probability": 0.04,
"vintage_probability": 0.66,
"authenticity_confidence": 0.04,
"image_quality_score": 0.57,
"seller_misidentification_probability": 0.065,
"confidence": 0.61,
"recommended_max_bid": 10,
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"estimated_resale_high": 27.5,
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"photo 1: Clearly a leather handbag with a framed kiss-lock closure and attached strap.",
"photo 2: The bag can apparently be carried with a long thin strap or as a clutch, consistent with a vintage evening-purse design.",
"photo 4: Leather appears soft and naturally creased rather than synthetic.",
"photo 1-3: leather kisslock evening clutch\/crossbody - leather handbag form where misidentified vintage could hide"
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"photo 1: The visible exterior has no COACH wordmark, horse-and-carriage, hangtag, or other Coach identifier.",
"photo 1: The kiss-lock frame closure is not a characteristic Coach turnlock closure.",
"photo 2: The strap and attachment construction do not visibly match a recognizable classic Coach model.",
"photo 3: The reverse is unmarked and provides no Coach branding.",
"Listing text: Seller identifies the maker as Shirl Miller Ltd., not Coach; this is seller-stated and not independently verified in the photos.",
"photo 1,2,3,4: no creed patch, COACH wordmark, hangtag, or horse-and-carriage visible",
"photo 1,4: kisslock ball-clasp frame with bright gold-tone plating showing wear\/plating loss - not solid brass vintage Coach turnlock hardware",
"photo 1-3: soft gathered kisslock clutch silhouette does not match catalog Coach classics which use turnlock flap closures",
"seller text states Brand: Shirl Miller Ltd, not Coach"
],
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"Interior photos, including any brand label, creed patch, or fabric tag.",
"Close-up photos of both sides of the frame, clasp, strap attachments, and any hardware markings.",
"Bottom, corners, and full strap-condition photos.",
"Readable photos of any interior or exterior maker stamp.",
"photo 1-4: interior not shown - no creed patch, lining, or interior label visible",
"photo 1-4: no COACH wordmark, hangtag, or horse-and-carriage visible",
"photo 4: close-up of frame shows plating wear but no maker stamp visible - need hardware stamps",
"photo 2: thin strap attachment and full length detail not clear"
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"No Coach identifier is visible, and the silhouette does not closely match the documented classic Coach catalog shapes."
],
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"No Coach model fits: kisslock frame, plated hardware with plating loss, and absence of creed\/wordmark\/turnlock\/hangtag inconsistent with Coach classics; seller attribution to Shirl Miller Ltd explains object",
"Condition: Good; soft leather with creasing\/slouch (photo 3) and hardware discoloration\/plating wear (photo 4), interior unknown so grade capped"
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"serial_or_style_number": "not_visible",
"hardware_description": "Photos 1-4: Gold-tone metal kiss-lock frame with twin spherical clasp knobs; visible discoloration and finish wear on the frame. No Coach engraving is visible.",
"leather_description": "Photos 1-4: Soft dark leather, appearing black or very dark navy, with substantial wrinkling, creasing, and surface wear.",
"lining_description": "not_visible",
"strap_construction": "Photo 2: Thin dark strap attached at the upper sides; seller states it can be placed inside for clutch use. Attachment details are not shown closely.",
"stitching_description": "Photos 1-4: Vertical gathered sections and perimeter construction are visible, but stitching is not sufficiently clear for a detailed assessment."
},
"ensemble_agreement": "HIGH",
"ensemble_variance": 0.0006,
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"photo 1: Clearly a leather handbag with a framed kiss-lock closure and attached strap.",
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"photo 4: Leather appears soft and naturally creased rather than synthetic."
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"photo 1: The visible exterior has no COACH wordmark, horse-and-carriage, hangtag, or other Coach identifier.",
"photo 1: The kiss-lock frame closure is not a characteristic Coach turnlock closure.",
"photo 2: The strap and attachment construction do not visibly match a recognizable classic Coach model.",
"photo 3: The reverse is unmarked and provides no Coach branding.",
"Listing text: Seller identifies the maker as Shirl Miller Ltd., not Coach; this is seller-stated and not independently verified in the photos."
],
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"Interior photos, including any brand label, creed patch, or fabric tag.",
"Close-up photos of both sides of the frame, clasp, strap attachments, and any hardware markings.",
"Bottom, corners, and full strap-condition photos.",
"Readable photos of any interior or exterior maker stamp."
],
"authenticity_concerns": [
"The visible design is more consistent with a generic or Shirl Miller framed leather purse than with a Coach handbag.",
"No Coach identifier is visible, and the silhouette does not closely match the documented classic Coach catalog shapes."
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"serial_or_style_number_present": false,
"serial_or_style_number": "not_visible",
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"turnlock_present": false,
"hangtag_present": false,
"hardware_description": "Photos 1-4: Gold-tone metal kiss-lock frame with twin spherical clasp knobs; visible discoloration and finish wear on the frame. No Coach engraving is visible.",
"leather_description": "Photos 1-4: Soft dark leather, appearing black or very dark navy, with substantial wrinkling, creasing, and surface wear.",
"lining_description": "not_visible",
"strap_construction": "Photo 2: Thin dark strap attached at the upper sides; seller states it can be placed inside for clutch use. Attachment details are not shown closely.",
"stitching_description": "Photos 1-4: Vertical gathered sections and perimeter construction are visible, but stitching is not sufficiently clear for a detailed assessment."
},
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"estimated_resale_low": 5,
"estimated_resale_high": 30
}
},
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"model_name": "meta:muse-spark-1.3-contributor",
"result": {
"authenticity_concerns": [],
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"confidence": 0.65,
"estimated_era": "modern (2000s+), non-Coach",
"estimated_resale_high": 25,
"estimated_resale_low": 5,
"image_quality_score": 0.55,
"is_handbag_probability": 0.95,
"missing_information": [
"photo 1-4: interior not shown - no creed patch, lining, or interior label visible",
"photo 1-4: no COACH wordmark, hangtag, or horse-and-carriage visible",
"photo 4: close-up of frame shows plating wear but no maker stamp visible - need hardware stamps",
"photo 2: thin strap attachment and full length detail not clear"
],
"negative_evidence": [
"photo 1,2,3,4: no creed patch, COACH wordmark, hangtag, or horse-and-carriage visible",
"photo 1,4: kisslock ball-clasp frame with bright gold-tone plating showing wear\/plating loss - not solid brass vintage Coach turnlock hardware",
"photo 1-3: soft gathered kisslock clutch silhouette does not match catalog Coach classics which use turnlock flap closures",
"seller text states Brand: Shirl Miller Ltd, not Coach"
],
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"coach_wordmark_present": false,
"creed_present": false,
"creed_text": "not_visible",
"hangtag_present": false,
"hardware_description": "gold-tone kisslock frame with twin ball clasps; bright plated finish with discoloration\/plating loss on one side visible in photo 4",
"leather_description": "dark navy to black soft leather with sheen and soft gathers at frame, creasing and slouch visible in photo 3",
"lining_description": "not_visible",
"serial_or_style_number": "not_visible",
"serial_or_style_number_present": false,
"stitching_description": "center vertical seam visible on front in photo 1-2; detail limited by resolution",
"strap_construction": "thin dark cord-like detachable strap visible in photo 2, attached at frame ends",
"turnlock_present": false
},
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"photo 1-3: leather kisslock evening clutch\/crossbody - leather handbag form where misidentified vintage could hide"
],
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"No Coach model fits: kisslock frame, plated hardware with plating loss, and absence of creed\/wordmark\/turnlock\/hangtag inconsistent with Coach classics; seller attribution to Shirl Miller Ltd explains object",
"Condition: Good; soft leather with creasing\/slouch (photo 3) and hardware discoloration\/plating wear (photo 4), interior unknown so grade capped"
],
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"recommended_max_bid": 10,
"seller_misidentification_probability": 0.05,
"vintage_probability": 0.7
}
}
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This is a model-generated estimate, not an observed market/sold price. Treat it as a rough guide only.
Nearest-perceptual-hash comparison against a small curated library of known vintage Coach models (data/coach-reference/) -- a coarse mechanical signal, not authentication.
No reference matches yet.