Vintage African crocodile shoulder bag or cross body bag. Good vintage condition with unbelievable 3-D section on front of bag. Strap generally in good cot but does have a few worn spots shown in photos. A bit stiff on inside, but very clean. Zipper section. Great specimen!
| creed present | no |
| serial or style number present | no |
| coach wordmark present | no |
| turnlock present | no |
| hangtag present | no |
| creed text | not_visible |
| serial or style number | not_visible |
| hardware description | photo 1-6: small leather strap fittings and tied leather closure elements are visible; no Coach-marked hardware is visible. |
| leather description | photo 1-6: glossy brown heavily textured exotic-skin leather, with raised central belly-scale sections and smoother perimeter panels; seller describes it as African crocodile. |
| lining description | photo 3-5: tan leather or leather-like interior with a separate zippered compartment; no textile lining or Coach label is visible. |
| strap construction | photo 1-2 and photo 6: narrow adjustable-looking leather shoulder strap attached at the sides; several worn areas are visible as described by the seller. |
| stitching description | photo 1-5: prominent hand-style leather lacing around the edges and visible stitched/laced construction; some edge wear and looseness are visible. |
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"coach_probability": 0.025,
"vintage_probability": 0.66,
"authenticity_confidence": 0.025,
"image_quality_score": 0.765,
"seller_misidentification_probability": 0.055,
"confidence": 0.855,
"recommended_max_bid": 17.5,
"estimated_resale_low": 20,
"estimated_resale_high": 62.5,
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"photo 3: unlined leather interior broadly consistent with old unlined bags generally, not specific to Coach"
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"photo 1: bag is visibly constructed from heavily textured crocodile\/alligator-style leather with a decorative raised central section, unlike the usual Coach classic glove-tanned cowhide construction.",
"photo 3: interior shows a plain leather interior and zipper compartment, but no Coach creed patch, wordmark, or horse-and-carriage identifier.",
"photo 6: exterior view shows no visible Coach branding, leather hangtag, or recognizable Coach hardware.",
"photo 1: edge lacing, decorative leather ties, and exotic-skin construction are more consistent with a specialty or tourist-market crocodile bag than a catalog Coach silhouette.",
"photo 1,2,6: full hornback crocodile skin with raised tail scutes - not Coach glove-tanned cowhide",
"photo 1-3,6: whipstitched \/ laced edges around flap and body - not Coach straight machine stitching",
"photo 1-3: knotted leather toggle-tie closure - no turnlock present",
"photo 3-5: interior shows no creed patch, no wordmark, no fabric tag in any interior view",
"photo 5: white nylon coil zipper with unbranded white slider - not Talon brass \/ YKK metal of vintage Coach",
"photo 1-6: no leather hangtag, no bead chain, no brass hardware consistent with Coach classics"
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"photo 1-6: no straight-on close-up of every interior wall and pocket seam to definitively exclude a concealed label or creed.",
"photo 1-6: zipper pull, strap attachment hardware, and any maker stamps are not shown in sufficient close-up.",
"Seller-stated species, provenance, dimensions, and country of manufacture are not independently verifiable from the photos.",
"photo 4-5: no creed patch visible on interior wall - confirm no stamped leather patch hidden in folds",
"photo 1-6: no COACH wordmark, hangtag, or hardware stamp shown - request close-ups if claimed",
"photo 4-5: zipper brand stamp not legible - request macro of slider",
"seller-stated dimensions and strap length not provided for scale"
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"photo 1-6: no Coach identifier is visible, and the exotic-skin decorative construction does not match the typical vintage Coach catalog and construction evidence.",
"photo 3-5: plain interior and zipper compartment provide no brand-specific evidence supporting Coach manufacture."
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"No Coach model is a credible match: the exotic-skin flap design, raised central panels, edge lacing, and leather-tie closure do not correspond to the listed classic Coach silhouettes.",
"photo 3-5: the interior is sufficiently visible to show no obvious rectangular Coach creed patch, although a concealed or removed label cannot be completely ruled out.",
"Condition: Good; visible wear on the strap and edge\/lacing areas, plus stiffness and surface wear described by the seller. Interior appears clean, but odor and hidden damage cannot be assessed.",
"No Coach catalog silhouette matches a hornback crocodile flap with laced edges and toggle-tie closure; Coach classics are smooth glove-tanned cowhide with brass turnlock and straight stitching",
"No hard identifiers observed: no creed, no serial, no wordmark, no hangtag, no stamped hardware in photos 1-6",
"Construction (exotic skin + whipstitch + nylon coil zip) points to tourist \/ African craft production, not Coach US\/Costa Rica\/Italy production",
"Condition: Good; leather intact with patina and flap creasing (photo 3), strap wear spots per seller, interior clean but stiff, no tears or hardware failure visible"
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"stitching_description": "photo 1-5: prominent hand-style leather lacing around the edges and visible stitched\/laced construction; some edge wear and looseness are visible."
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"photo 6: exterior view shows no visible Coach branding, leather hangtag, or recognizable Coach hardware.",
"photo 1: edge lacing, decorative leather ties, and exotic-skin construction are more consistent with a specialty or tourist-market crocodile bag than a catalog Coach silhouette."
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"lining_description": "photo 3-5: tan leather or leather-like interior with a separate zippered compartment; no textile lining or Coach label is visible.",
"strap_construction": "photo 1-2 and photo 6: narrow adjustable-looking leather shoulder strap attached at the sides; several worn areas are visible as described by the seller.",
"stitching_description": "photo 1-5: prominent hand-style leather lacing around the edges and visible stitched\/laced construction; some edge wear and looseness are visible."
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"No Coach model is a credible match: the exotic-skin flap design, raised central panels, edge lacing, and leather-tie closure do not correspond to the listed classic Coach silhouettes.",
"photo 3-5: the interior is sufficiently visible to show no obvious rectangular Coach creed patch, although a concealed or removed label cannot be completely ruled out.",
"Condition: Good; visible wear on the strap and edge\/lacing areas, plus stiffness and surface wear described by the seller. Interior appears clean, but odor and hidden damage cannot be assessed."
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"photo 1-6: no COACH wordmark, hangtag, or hardware stamp shown - request close-ups if claimed",
"photo 4-5: zipper brand stamp not legible - request macro of slider",
"seller-stated dimensions and strap length not provided for scale"
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"photo 1,2,6: full hornback crocodile skin with raised tail scutes - not Coach glove-tanned cowhide",
"photo 1-3,6: whipstitched \/ laced edges around flap and body - not Coach straight machine stitching",
"photo 1-3: knotted leather toggle-tie closure - no turnlock present",
"photo 3-5: interior shows no creed patch, no wordmark, no fabric tag in any interior view",
"photo 5: white nylon coil zipper with unbranded white slider - not Talon brass \/ YKK metal of vintage Coach",
"photo 1-6: no leather hangtag, no bead chain, no brass hardware consistent with Coach classics"
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"hardware_description": "no brass turnlock, buckles or rivets visible; thin leather toggle tie at flap; silver-tone strap rings only partially visible; white nylon coil zipper",
"leather_description": "photo 1,2,6: brown genuine-appearing hornback crocodile skin with 3-D tail scutes on flap front, glazed finish; body and flap underside smooth tan leather",
"lining_description": "photo 3-5: unlined tan leather \/ skin underside, no fabric lining, zippered compartment with light cloth tape",
"serial_or_style_number": "not_visible",
"serial_or_style_number_present": false,
"stitching_description": "photo 3,4,6: whipstitch \/ overcast lacing around flap and body perimeter, not Coach even straight machine stitching",
"strap_construction": "photo 1,4,6: thin flat tan leather shoulder\/crossbody strap, edge wear noted, attachment details not shown in close-up",
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"No hard identifiers observed: no creed, no serial, no wordmark, no hangtag, no stamped hardware in photos 1-6",
"Construction (exotic skin + whipstitch + nylon coil zip) points to tourist \/ African craft production, not Coach US\/Costa Rica\/Italy production",
"Condition: Good; leather intact with patina and flap creasing (photo 3), strap wear spots per seller, interior clean but stiff, no tears or hardware failure visible"
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This is a model-generated estimate, not an observed market/sold price. Treat it as a rough guide only.
Nearest-perceptual-hash comparison against a small curated library of known vintage Coach models (data/coach-reference/) -- a coarse mechanical signal, not authentication.
No reference matches yet.