Very Vintage Sleek Black Leather Satchel GUC Patent Black Leather in Color with Silver Hardware 11" Tall 10" Wide Handle Drop is apprx 4 1/4" Structure Flap Inside is fairly clean 2 slip pockets 1 Zip Pocket Comes with a coin Purse Flap Does have a crease (Please see photos) Overall it is a Stunning Satchel for its age I think it is Dynamite I truly know very little about this bag, other than it caught my eye. It has initials J.A.H "Jah is a shortenend poetic name for God.... Could be Jean Anotioine Houdon a Famous French Sculptur? If you know anything about this beauty please let me know. I just thought it was pretty classy Qustions and Offers are met with Appreciation and Respect.
| creed present | no |
| serial or style number present | no |
| coach wordmark present | no |
| turnlock present | no |
| hangtag present | no |
| creed text | not_visible |
| serial or style number | not_visible |
| hardware description | photo 1 and photo 3: bright silver-tone rectangular handle fittings and a central elongated flap fitting; no visible brand engraving. A Coach-style turnlock is not visible. |
| leather description | photo 1, photo 4, and photo 5: smooth, highly glossy black patent-like leather or coated material; minor creasing and surface wear are visible. |
| lining description | not_visible |
| strap construction | photo 1: short fixed top handle with metal attachment fittings; no shoulder strap is visible. |
| stitching description | photo 1, photo 5, and photo 6: visible perimeter and panel stitching appears generally even, though edge finishing and construction details are limited by the close framing. |
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"photo 1: the central flap fitting is a decorative elongated bar rather than a recognizable Coach turnlock.",
"photo 1: no legible COACH wordmark, horse-and-carriage, leather hangtag, or creed patch is visible.",
"photo 3: handle hardware is chunky and bright silver-tone, with no visible Coach marking.",
"photo 6: exposed edge construction and glossy finish suggest a generic patent or coated-leather fashion bag rather than a classic Coach construction.",
"photo 1: silver-tone handle hardware, not solid brass vintage Coach hardware",
"photo 1: high-gloss smooth black leather, not matte glove-tanned cowhide with natural grain",
"photo 1: flap with center leather loop\/tab closure, no brass turnlock with Coach geometry",
"photos 1-6: no COACH wordmark, horse-and-carriage, creed patch, or hangtag visible",
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"Condition: Good to Very Good; visible flap crease and light surface\/edge wear, with interior, bottom, and full hardware function not shown.",
"Silhouette with structured flap and top handle does not match any Classic glove-tanned catalog style (Willis 9927, Court 9870, Station 5130, etc.) which use brass turnlocks and unlined glove-tanned leather",
"Hardware finish (silver), glossy leather, and loop closure point away from 1975-1993 Coach construction; no identifier to decode for era",
"Condition: Good to Fair; flap crease noted by seller, corner edge wear with white show-through in photo 6, handle wear in photo 3"
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"photo 1: bright silver-tone hardware is inconsistent with most 1960s\u2013early 1990s Coach classics, which predominantly used solid brass.",
"photo 1: the central flap fitting is a decorative elongated bar rather than a recognizable Coach turnlock.",
"photo 1: no legible COACH wordmark, horse-and-carriage, leather hangtag, or creed patch is visible.",
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"The seller's claimed 1960s\u20131970s era cannot be verified from the photos; glossy patent-like material and silver-tone hardware instead suggest a later generic fashion bag.",
"Condition: Good to Very Good; visible flap crease and light surface\/edge wear, with interior, bottom, and full hardware function not shown."
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"Condition: Good to Fair; flap crease noted by seller, corner edge wear with white show-through in photo 6, handle wear in photo 3"
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This is a model-generated estimate, not an observed market/sold price. Treat it as a rough guide only.
Nearest-perceptual-hash comparison against a small curated library of known vintage Coach models (data/coach-reference/) -- a coarse mechanical signal, not authentication.
No reference matches yet.