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Listing

Title
Vintage Carriage House Black Leather Shoulder Bag Croc Trim, Organizer Purse
Source
eBay
Seller's brand
Unbranded
Category
Women's Bags & Handbags
Current bid
—
Buy-now price
$17.00
Shipping
$10.99
Location
US
Ends
— (—)
Discovered
2026-09-15 09:13
Last seen
2026-09-15 09:13

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AI analysis

Model / prompt
ensemble:openai:gpt-5.6-luna+meta:muse-spark-1.3-contributor (prompt v2)
Analyzed at
2026-09-15 09:48
Is handbag
99%
Coach probability
5% (possible, not confirmed)
Vintage probability
8%
Authenticity confidence
4%
Image quality
75%
Seller misidentification
8%
Coach score
0.11
Opportunity score
0.06
Deal score
0.04
Estimated era
modern (2000s+), non-Coach
Possible models
—

Evidence

POSITIVE
  • photo 1: leather-like shoulder bag with organized zip compartments and gold-tone hardware is consistent with a handbag, but not specifically Coach
  • photo 2: visible shoulder strap and top handles confirm handbag construction
  • photo 1: black shoulder handbag form, the population where misidentified Coach hides
NEGATIVE
  • photo 1: no visible Coach wordmark, carriage, creed patch, or recognizable Coach hardware
  • photo 1: exterior uses contrasting crocodile-embossed trim and multiple organizer-style zipper sections, unlike the classic unlined glove-tanned Coach silhouettes
  • photo 3: interior is fabric-lined with several zip compartments and generic construction
  • photo 3: the visible circular snap closure is not a vintage Coach turnlock
  • photo 4: interior pocket area shows no legible Coach creed or style number
  • photo 5: generic fabric lining and zipper construction provide no Coach identifier
  • photo 1, photo 2: no turnlock, no COACH wordmark, no hangtag visible
  • photo 3, photo 4: fully fabric-lined interior with organizer zip compartments, not unlined glove-tanned suede-back leather
  • photo 3: magnetic snap closure, not Coach vintage turnlock geometry
  • photo 1, photo 2: brown croc-embossed trim with light contrast stitching and gold-tone plated hardware, inconsistent with 1970s-1990s Coach classics
  • photo 4: black synthetic-appearing fabric lining and multiple zip pockets, typical department-store organizer purse construction
MISSING INFORMATION
  • straight-on close-up of every interior wall and pocket for any hidden brand label or creed
  • close-ups of zipper pulls, hardware backs, and strap attachment points
  • bottom, side, and corner photographs
  • seller-stated dimensions and confirmation of whether any brand or country-of-origin tag is present
  • photo of any interior leather creed patch or fabric brand tag in pocket seams
  • close-up of hardware stamps on snap and zipper pulls
  • bottom and corner wear views
AUTHENTICITY CONCERNS
  • ⚠ The bag has no visible Coach identifiers and appears to be a generic organizer-style leather or leather-like handbag.
  • ⚠ The fabric-lined, multi-compartment construction and contrasting crocodile-embossed trim do not align with the classic vintage Coach construction suggested by the listing title.

Observed features

creed present no
serial or style number present no
coach wordmark present no
turnlock present no
hangtag present no
creed text not_visible
serial or style number not_visible
hardware description photo 1: gold-tone zipper pulls, rings, and snap hardware; no visible Coach engraving; photo 3: circular snap closure visible inside the opening
leather description photo 1: black smooth leather-like material with dark brown crocodile-embossed contrasting trim; exact material cannot be confirmed from photographs
lining description photo 3 and photo 5: dark fabric lining with multiple organizer compartments and zippered sections
strap construction photo 1 and photo 2: long adjustable-looking shoulder strap plus short top handles; strap includes crocodile-embossed contrasting sections
stitching description photos 1-2: visible contrast stitching appears generally even, but close stress-point inspection is unavailable
Raw AI response (debug)
{
    "is_handbag_probability": 0.99,
    "coach_probability": 0.045,
    "vintage_probability": 0.08,
    "authenticity_confidence": 0.035,
    "image_quality_score": 0.745,
    "seller_misidentification_probability": 0.075,
    "confidence": 0.845,
    "recommended_max_bid": 11,
    "estimated_resale_low": 7.5,
    "estimated_resale_high": 30,
    "possible_models": [],
    "positive_evidence": [
        "photo 1: leather-like shoulder bag with organized zip compartments and gold-tone hardware is consistent with a handbag, but not specifically Coach",
        "photo 2: visible shoulder strap and top handles confirm handbag construction",
        "photo 1: black shoulder handbag form, the population where misidentified Coach hides"
    ],
    "negative_evidence": [
        "photo 1: no visible Coach wordmark, carriage, creed patch, or recognizable Coach hardware",
        "photo 1: exterior uses contrasting crocodile-embossed trim and multiple organizer-style zipper sections, unlike the classic unlined glove-tanned Coach silhouettes",
        "photo 3: interior is fabric-lined with several zip compartments and generic construction",
        "photo 3: the visible circular snap closure is not a vintage Coach turnlock",
        "photo 4: interior pocket area shows no legible Coach creed or style number",
        "photo 5: generic fabric lining and zipper construction provide no Coach identifier",
        "photo 1, photo 2: no turnlock, no COACH wordmark, no hangtag visible",
        "photo 3, photo 4: fully fabric-lined interior with organizer zip compartments, not unlined glove-tanned suede-back leather",
        "photo 3: magnetic snap closure, not Coach vintage turnlock geometry",
        "photo 1, photo 2: brown croc-embossed trim with light contrast stitching and gold-tone plated hardware, inconsistent with 1970s-1990s Coach classics",
        "photo 4: black synthetic-appearing fabric lining and multiple zip pockets, typical department-store organizer purse construction"
    ],
    "missing_information": [
        "straight-on close-up of every interior wall and pocket for any hidden brand label or creed",
        "close-ups of zipper pulls, hardware backs, and strap attachment points",
        "bottom, side, and corner photographs",
        "seller-stated dimensions and confirmation of whether any brand or country-of-origin tag is present",
        "photo of any interior leather creed patch or fabric brand tag in pocket seams",
        "close-up of hardware stamps on snap and zipper pulls",
        "bottom and corner wear views"
    ],
    "authenticity_concerns": [
        "The bag has no visible Coach identifiers and appears to be a generic organizer-style leather or leather-like handbag.",
        "The fabric-lined, multi-compartment construction and contrasting crocodile-embossed trim do not align with the classic vintage Coach construction suggested by the listing title."
    ],
    "possible_model_reasoning": [
        "The silhouette is a contemporary organizer shoulder bag rather than a recognizable Coach classic such as a Willis, Court, Station, or Dinky.",
        "No Coach style number, creed, logo, or horse-and-carriage is visible; the seller's 'Carriage House' wording is unverified listing text, not a brand identifier.",
        "Condition appears Very Good: the bag is shown intact with light surface creasing and minor visible wear; bottom and stress points are not fully documented.",
        "No Coach silhouette match: front exterior zip pocket with croc band, back slip pocket with croc trim, magnetic-snap top and fabric organizer interior do not match City Bag, Court, Station, Willis or other catalog classics",
        "No hard identifiers: no creed patch, no serial, no wordmark, no hangtag, no Talon\/YKK brass zipper evidence",
        "Construction points to modern non-Coach: lined interior, plated gold-tone hardware, contrast stitching, croc-embossed trim",
        "Condition: Good to Very Good for a used bag; surface wear minimal in photos but bottom corners and strap fold not shown in detail, lining unknown for stains beyond what is visible"
    ],
    "estimated_era": "modern (2000s+), non-Coach",
    "observed_features": {
        "creed_present": false,
        "serial_or_style_number_present": false,
        "coach_wordmark_present": false,
        "turnlock_present": false,
        "hangtag_present": false,
        "creed_text": "not_visible",
        "serial_or_style_number": "not_visible",
        "hardware_description": "photo 1: gold-tone zipper pulls, rings, and snap hardware; no visible Coach engraving; photo 3: circular snap closure visible inside the opening",
        "leather_description": "photo 1: black smooth leather-like material with dark brown crocodile-embossed contrasting trim; exact material cannot be confirmed from photographs",
        "lining_description": "photo 3 and photo 5: dark fabric lining with multiple organizer compartments and zippered sections",
        "strap_construction": "photo 1 and photo 2: long adjustable-looking shoulder strap plus short top handles; strap includes crocodile-embossed contrasting sections",
        "stitching_description": "photos 1-2: visible contrast stitching appears generally even, but close stress-point inspection is unavailable"
    },
    "ensemble_agreement": "HIGH",
    "ensemble_variance": 0.0016,
    "ensemble_members": [
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            "result": {
                "is_handbag_probability": 0.99,
                "coach_probability": 0.06,
                "vintage_probability": 0.08,
                "authenticity_confidence": 0.04,
                "image_quality_score": 0.84,
                "seller_misidentification_probability": 0.12,
                "estimated_era": "modern (2000s+), non-Coach",
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                    "photo 1: leather-like shoulder bag with organized zip compartments and gold-tone hardware is consistent with a handbag, but not specifically Coach",
                    "photo 2: visible shoulder strap and top handles confirm handbag construction"
                ],
                "negative_evidence": [
                    "photo 1: no visible Coach wordmark, carriage, creed patch, or recognizable Coach hardware",
                    "photo 1: exterior uses contrasting crocodile-embossed trim and multiple organizer-style zipper sections, unlike the classic unlined glove-tanned Coach silhouettes",
                    "photo 3: interior is fabric-lined with several zip compartments and generic construction",
                    "photo 3: the visible circular snap closure is not a vintage Coach turnlock",
                    "photo 4: interior pocket area shows no legible Coach creed or style number",
                    "photo 5: generic fabric lining and zipper construction provide no Coach identifier"
                ],
                "missing_information": [
                    "straight-on close-up of every interior wall and pocket for any hidden brand label or creed",
                    "close-ups of zipper pulls, hardware backs, and strap attachment points",
                    "bottom, side, and corner photographs",
                    "seller-stated dimensions and confirmation of whether any brand or country-of-origin tag is present"
                ],
                "authenticity_concerns": [
                    "The bag has no visible Coach identifiers and appears to be a generic organizer-style leather or leather-like handbag.",
                    "The fabric-lined, multi-compartment construction and contrasting crocodile-embossed trim do not align with the classic vintage Coach construction suggested by the listing title."
                ],
                "observed_features": {
                    "creed_present": false,
                    "creed_text": "not_visible",
                    "serial_or_style_number_present": false,
                    "serial_or_style_number": "not_visible",
                    "coach_wordmark_present": false,
                    "turnlock_present": false,
                    "hangtag_present": false,
                    "hardware_description": "photo 1: gold-tone zipper pulls, rings, and snap hardware; no visible Coach engraving; photo 3: circular snap closure visible inside the opening",
                    "leather_description": "photo 1: black smooth leather-like material with dark brown crocodile-embossed contrasting trim; exact material cannot be confirmed from photographs",
                    "lining_description": "photo 3 and photo 5: dark fabric lining with multiple organizer compartments and zippered sections",
                    "strap_construction": "photo 1 and photo 2: long adjustable-looking shoulder strap plus short top handles; strap includes crocodile-embossed contrasting sections",
                    "stitching_description": "photos 1-2: visible contrast stitching appears generally even, but close stress-point inspection is unavailable"
                },
                "possible_model_reasoning": [
                    "The silhouette is a contemporary organizer shoulder bag rather than a recognizable Coach classic such as a Willis, Court, Station, or Dinky.",
                    "No Coach style number, creed, logo, or horse-and-carriage is visible; the seller's 'Carriage House' wording is unverified listing text, not a brand identifier.",
                    "Condition appears Very Good: the bag is shown intact with light surface creasing and minor visible wear; bottom and stress points are not fully documented."
                ],
                "confidence": 0.84,
                "recommended_max_bid": 12,
                "estimated_resale_low": 10,
                "estimated_resale_high": 35
            }
        },
        {
            "model_name": "meta:muse-spark-1.3-contributor",
            "result": {
                "authenticity_concerns": [],
                "authenticity_confidence": 0.03,
                "coach_probability": 0.03,
                "confidence": 0.85,
                "estimated_era": "modern (2000s+), non-Coach",
                "estimated_resale_high": 25,
                "estimated_resale_low": 5,
                "image_quality_score": 0.65,
                "is_handbag_probability": 0.99,
                "missing_information": [
                    "photo of any interior leather creed patch or fabric brand tag in pocket seams",
                    "close-up of hardware stamps on snap and zipper pulls",
                    "bottom and corner wear views"
                ],
                "negative_evidence": [
                    "photo 1, photo 2: no turnlock, no COACH wordmark, no hangtag visible",
                    "photo 3, photo 4: fully fabric-lined interior with organizer zip compartments, not unlined glove-tanned suede-back leather",
                    "photo 3: magnetic snap closure, not Coach vintage turnlock geometry",
                    "photo 1, photo 2: brown croc-embossed trim with light contrast stitching and gold-tone plated hardware, inconsistent with 1970s-1990s Coach classics",
                    "photo 4: black synthetic-appearing fabric lining and multiple zip pockets, typical department-store organizer purse construction"
                ],
                "observed_features": {
                    "coach_wordmark_present": false,
                    "creed_present": false,
                    "creed_text": "not_visible",
                    "hangtag_present": false,
                    "hardware_description": "gold-tone plated hardware: front zip pull with teardrop charm, side strap rings, magnetic snap closure; not solid brass turnlock",
                    "leather_description": "black pebbled-grain material with brown croc-embossed trim on front zip band, back pocket trim and strap; sheen and grain suggest coated \/ department-store leather, not vintage glove-tanned cowhide",
                    "lining_description": "black fabric lining with interior zip pocket and organizer compartments visible in photo 3 and photo 4",
                    "serial_or_style_number": "not_visible",
                    "serial_or_style_number_present": false,
                    "stitching_description": "light contrast stitching along croc trim in photo 1 and photo 2; even but not tone-matched Coach classic stitching",
                    "strap_construction": "single wide shoulder strap with croc-embossed finish attached via metal rings, visible in photo 2 and photo 3",
                    "turnlock_present": false
                },
                "positive_evidence": [
                    "photo 1: black shoulder handbag form, the population where misidentified Coach hides"
                ],
                "possible_model_reasoning": [
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                    "No hard identifiers: no creed patch, no serial, no wordmark, no hangtag, no Talon\/YKK brass zipper evidence",
                    "Construction points to modern non-Coach: lined interior, plated gold-tone hardware, contrast stitching, croc-embossed trim",
                    "Condition: Good to Very Good for a used bag; surface wear minimal in photos but bottom corners and strap fold not shown in detail, lining unknown for stains beyond what is visible"
                ],
                "possible_models": [],
                "recommended_max_bid": 10,
                "seller_misidentification_probability": 0.03,
                "vintage_probability": 0.08
            }
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Valuation AI ESTIMATE

This is a model-generated estimate, not an observed market/sold price. Treat it as a rough guide only.

Estimated resale range
$7.50–$30.00
Suggested max bid
$11.00

Reference-image matches

Nearest-perceptual-hash comparison against a small curated library of known vintage Coach models (data/coach-reference/) -- a coarse mechanical signal, not authentication.

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