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Listing

Title
Vintage Western Tooled Leather Crocodile Saddle Bag Concho Purse
Source
eBay
Seller's brand
Unbranded
Category
Women's Bags & Handbags
Current bid
—
Buy-now price
$140.00
Shipping
—
Location
US
Ends
— (—)
Discovered
2026-09-15 09:13
Last seen
2026-09-20 02:19

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AI analysis

Model / prompt
ensemble:openai:gpt-5.6-luna+meta:muse-spark-1.3-contributor (prompt v2)
Analyzed at
2026-09-15 09:49
Is handbag
99%
Coach probability
2% (possible, not confirmed)
Vintage probability
32%
Authenticity confidence
2%
Image quality
79%
Seller misidentification
3%
Coach score
0.12
Opportunity score
0.06
Deal score
0.04
Estimated era
modern (2000s+), non-Coach
Possible models
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Evidence

POSITIVE
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NEGATIVE
  • photo 1: Western-style tooled and embossed faux-crocodile appearance, decorative concho, and silver-tone hardware do not match typical vintage Coach construction.
  • photo 2: Large decorative concho and extensive tooling are not characteristic of Coach classic handbag models.
  • photo 3: Exterior shows crocodile-pattern embossing rather than Coach glove-tanned smooth leather or documented Coach signature canvas.
  • photo 6: Silver-tone lobster-style strap hardware and decorative fittings are inconsistent with the solid-brass hardware expected on most classic vintage Coach bags.
  • photos 1-7: No visible Coach wordmark, horse-and-carriage, creed patch, serial/style number, or Coach hangtag.
  • photo 1, photo 2, photo 3: no COACH wordmark, horse-and-carriage, creed patch or leather hangtag visible
  • photo 1, photo 2: closure is large silver-tone western concho snap, not Coach brass turnlock geometry
  • photo 4, photo 6: strap hardware is silver-tone swivel snap hooks and D-rings, not vintage Coach solid brass dogleash / lobster clips
  • photo 1-5: body is croc-embossed leather with tooled basketweave and floral flap, not Coach smooth glove-tanned cowhide
  • photo 1-6: no catalog silhouette match to City Bag, Willis, Court, Station, Dinky or other classics
MISSING INFORMATION
  • photo 7: Clear interior view, including all pockets and seams, to confirm that no brand label or creed is present.
  • photo 8: Close-up of any interior, underside, or edge stamp that might identify the maker.
  • photo 9: Full bottom and corner views to assess construction and condition.
  • interior emptied showing back wall / slip pocket where creed would sit
  • straight-on creed patch photo in raking light if any patch exists
  • hardware stamps / Made-in mark
  • seller-stated dimensions for scale
AUTHENTICITY CONCERNS
  • ⚠ The ornate Western tooling, embossed crocodile pattern, prominent concho, and silver-tone hardware are lookalike/generic construction cues rather than Coach cues.
  • ⚠ No Coach identifiers are visible in the supplied photos; the bag should not be treated as a Coach find based on its saddle-bag silhouette alone.
  • ⚠ photo 1, photo 2, photo 3: western tooled basketweave, croc-embossed leather and large silver concho have no counterpart in Coach classic catalog

Observed features

creed present no
serial or style number present no
coach wordmark present no
turnlock present no
hangtag present no
creed text not_visible
serial or style number not_visible
hardware description photos 1, 2, 6: Silver-tone decorative concho, D-rings, and lobster-style strap clips; no Coach engraving is visible.
leather description photos 1-3: Brown leather or leather-like material with extensive Western tooling, woven tooling, and glossy embossed crocodile-pattern panels; exact material cannot be confirmed.
lining description not_visible - dark interior glimpsed in photo 6 but material and pockets not shown
strap construction photos 1, 4, 5: Wide adjustable-looking dark brown strap with contrasting worn/darkened underside and stitched leather attachment sections; strap appears removable by silver-tone clips.
stitching description photos 1-5: Visible perimeter stitching is generally even, with decorative contrasting stitching around tooled panels; interior construction is not shown.
Raw AI response (debug)
{
    "is_handbag_probability": 0.99,
    "coach_probability": 0.02,
    "vintage_probability": 0.315,
    "authenticity_confidence": 0.02,
    "image_quality_score": 0.79,
    "seller_misidentification_probability": 0.03,
    "confidence": 0.89,
    "recommended_max_bid": 13.5,
    "estimated_resale_low": 17.5,
    "estimated_resale_high": 50,
    "possible_models": [],
    "positive_evidence": [],
    "negative_evidence": [
        "photo 1: Western-style tooled and embossed faux-crocodile appearance, decorative concho, and silver-tone hardware do not match typical vintage Coach construction.",
        "photo 2: Large decorative concho and extensive tooling are not characteristic of Coach classic handbag models.",
        "photo 3: Exterior shows crocodile-pattern embossing rather than Coach glove-tanned smooth leather or documented Coach signature canvas.",
        "photo 6: Silver-tone lobster-style strap hardware and decorative fittings are inconsistent with the solid-brass hardware expected on most classic vintage Coach bags.",
        "photos 1-7: No visible Coach wordmark, horse-and-carriage, creed patch, serial\/style number, or Coach hangtag.",
        "photo 1, photo 2, photo 3: no COACH wordmark, horse-and-carriage, creed patch or leather hangtag visible",
        "photo 1, photo 2: closure is large silver-tone western concho snap, not Coach brass turnlock geometry",
        "photo 4, photo 6: strap hardware is silver-tone swivel snap hooks and D-rings, not vintage Coach solid brass dogleash \/ lobster clips",
        "photo 1-5: body is croc-embossed leather with tooled basketweave and floral flap, not Coach smooth glove-tanned cowhide",
        "photo 1-6: no catalog silhouette match to City Bag, Willis, Court, Station, Dinky or other classics"
    ],
    "missing_information": [
        "photo 7: Clear interior view, including all pockets and seams, to confirm that no brand label or creed is present.",
        "photo 8: Close-up of any interior, underside, or edge stamp that might identify the maker.",
        "photo 9: Full bottom and corner views to assess construction and condition.",
        "interior emptied showing back wall \/ slip pocket where creed would sit",
        "straight-on creed patch photo in raking light if any patch exists",
        "hardware stamps \/ Made-in mark",
        "seller-stated dimensions for scale"
    ],
    "authenticity_concerns": [
        "The ornate Western tooling, embossed crocodile pattern, prominent concho, and silver-tone hardware are lookalike\/generic construction cues rather than Coach cues.",
        "No Coach identifiers are visible in the supplied photos; the bag should not be treated as a Coach find based on its saddle-bag silhouette alone.",
        "photo 1, photo 2, photo 3: western tooled basketweave, croc-embossed leather and large silver concho have no counterpart in Coach classic catalog"
    ],
    "possible_model_reasoning": [
        "The rectangular flap shoulder-bag silhouette is a generic Western saddle-bag form and does not correspond closely to a documented Coach model.",
        "The decorative concho is a front ornament rather than a Coach-style turnlock; no Coach-specific model match is supportable.",
        "Condition appears Good: visible scuffs, discoloration, and wear on the strap and some surface variation; interior and odor are unknown.",
        "No Coach model fits: western concho flap, tooled leather and croc embossing are outside Coach 1970s-2000s catalog; hardware finish and closure inconsistent with all classic glove-tanned styles",
        "Condition: Very Good to Good; leather shows wear and creasing on strap (photo 4) but body intact, corners not worn through (photo 5); interior not shown so grade capped"
    ],
    "estimated_era": "modern (2000s+), non-Coach",
    "observed_features": {
        "creed_present": false,
        "serial_or_style_number_present": false,
        "coach_wordmark_present": false,
        "turnlock_present": false,
        "hangtag_present": false,
        "creed_text": "not_visible",
        "serial_or_style_number": "not_visible",
        "hardware_description": "photos 1, 2, 6: Silver-tone decorative concho, D-rings, and lobster-style strap clips; no Coach engraving is visible.",
        "leather_description": "photos 1-3: Brown leather or leather-like material with extensive Western tooling, woven tooling, and glossy embossed crocodile-pattern panels; exact material cannot be confirmed.",
        "lining_description": "not_visible - dark interior glimpsed in photo 6 but material and pockets not shown",
        "strap_construction": "photos 1, 4, 5: Wide adjustable-looking dark brown strap with contrasting worn\/darkened underside and stitched leather attachment sections; strap appears removable by silver-tone clips.",
        "stitching_description": "photos 1-5: Visible perimeter stitching is generally even, with decorative contrasting stitching around tooled panels; interior construction is not shown."
    },
    "ensemble_agreement": "HIGH",
    "ensemble_variance": 0.0033,
    "ensemble_members": [
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                "coach_probability": 0.02,
                "vintage_probability": 0.18,
                "authenticity_confidence": 0.02,
                "image_quality_score": 0.86,
                "seller_misidentification_probability": 0.04,
                "estimated_era": "modern (2000s+), non-Coach",
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                "negative_evidence": [
                    "photo 1: Western-style tooled and embossed faux-crocodile appearance, decorative concho, and silver-tone hardware do not match typical vintage Coach construction.",
                    "photo 2: Large decorative concho and extensive tooling are not characteristic of Coach classic handbag models.",
                    "photo 3: Exterior shows crocodile-pattern embossing rather than Coach glove-tanned smooth leather or documented Coach signature canvas.",
                    "photo 6: Silver-tone lobster-style strap hardware and decorative fittings are inconsistent with the solid-brass hardware expected on most classic vintage Coach bags.",
                    "photos 1-7: No visible Coach wordmark, horse-and-carriage, creed patch, serial\/style number, or Coach hangtag."
                ],
                "missing_information": [
                    "photo 7: Clear interior view, including all pockets and seams, to confirm that no brand label or creed is present.",
                    "photo 8: Close-up of any interior, underside, or edge stamp that might identify the maker.",
                    "photo 9: Full bottom and corner views to assess construction and condition."
                ],
                "authenticity_concerns": [
                    "The ornate Western tooling, embossed crocodile pattern, prominent concho, and silver-tone hardware are lookalike\/generic construction cues rather than Coach cues.",
                    "No Coach identifiers are visible in the supplied photos; the bag should not be treated as a Coach find based on its saddle-bag silhouette alone."
                ],
                "observed_features": {
                    "creed_present": false,
                    "creed_text": "not_visible",
                    "serial_or_style_number_present": false,
                    "serial_or_style_number": "not_visible",
                    "coach_wordmark_present": false,
                    "turnlock_present": false,
                    "hangtag_present": false,
                    "hardware_description": "photos 1, 2, 6: Silver-tone decorative concho, D-rings, and lobster-style strap clips; no Coach engraving is visible.",
                    "leather_description": "photos 1-3: Brown leather or leather-like material with extensive Western tooling, woven tooling, and glossy embossed crocodile-pattern panels; exact material cannot be confirmed.",
                    "lining_description": "not_visible",
                    "strap_construction": "photos 1, 4, 5: Wide adjustable-looking dark brown strap with contrasting worn\/darkened underside and stitched leather attachment sections; strap appears removable by silver-tone clips.",
                    "stitching_description": "photos 1-5: Visible perimeter stitching is generally even, with decorative contrasting stitching around tooled panels; interior construction is not shown."
                },
                "possible_model_reasoning": [
                    "The rectangular flap shoulder-bag silhouette is a generic Western saddle-bag form and does not correspond closely to a documented Coach model.",
                    "The decorative concho is a front ornament rather than a Coach-style turnlock; no Coach-specific model match is supportable.",
                    "Condition appears Good: visible scuffs, discoloration, and wear on the strap and some surface variation; interior and odor are unknown."
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                "recommended_max_bid": 12,
                "estimated_resale_low": 15,
                "estimated_resale_high": 45
            }
        },
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                "authenticity_concerns": [
                    "photo 1, photo 2, photo 3: western tooled basketweave, croc-embossed leather and large silver concho have no counterpart in Coach classic catalog"
                ],
                "authenticity_confidence": 0.02,
                "coach_probability": 0.02,
                "confidence": 0.88,
                "estimated_era": "modern (2000s+), non-Coach",
                "estimated_resale_high": 55,
                "estimated_resale_low": 20,
                "image_quality_score": 0.72,
                "is_handbag_probability": 0.99,
                "missing_information": [
                    "interior emptied showing back wall \/ slip pocket where creed would sit",
                    "straight-on creed patch photo in raking light if any patch exists",
                    "hardware stamps \/ Made-in mark",
                    "seller-stated dimensions for scale"
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                "negative_evidence": [
                    "photo 1, photo 2, photo 3: no COACH wordmark, horse-and-carriage, creed patch or leather hangtag visible",
                    "photo 1, photo 2: closure is large silver-tone western concho snap, not Coach brass turnlock geometry",
                    "photo 4, photo 6: strap hardware is silver-tone swivel snap hooks and D-rings, not vintage Coach solid brass dogleash \/ lobster clips",
                    "photo 1-5: body is croc-embossed leather with tooled basketweave and floral flap, not Coach smooth glove-tanned cowhide",
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                    "creed_present": false,
                    "creed_text": "not_visible",
                    "hangtag_present": false,
                    "hardware_description": "silver-tone western concho on flap center, silver-tone D-rings and swivel snap-hook strap ends; no brass turnlock, no COACH stamping visible",
                    "leather_description": "brown croc-embossed leather body with tan tooled basketweave and scrollwork flap; high-gloss embossed finish, not smooth matte glove-tanned cowhide",
                    "lining_description": "not_visible - dark interior glimpsed in photo 6 but material and pockets not shown",
                    "serial_or_style_number": "not_visible",
                    "serial_or_style_number_present": false,
                    "stitching_description": "light contrast edge stitching around flap and body visible in photo 2, photo 3; even but not Coach tone-on-tone classic stitching",
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                    "turnlock_present": false
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Valuation AI ESTIMATE

This is a model-generated estimate, not an observed market/sold price. Treat it as a rough guide only.

Estimated resale range
$17.50–$50.00
Suggested max bid
$13.50

Reference-image matches

Nearest-perceptual-hash comparison against a small curated library of known vintage Coach models (data/coach-reference/) -- a coarse mechanical signal, not authentication.

No reference matches yet.

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